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 steeleye20  Croydon 04 Oct 19 2.47pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I do feel that the general public have come to the end of their tether with this failure to deliver Brexit. It would have been helpful if leave had considered what was deliverable or not 3 years ago.
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| samprior Hamburg 04 Oct 19 2.57pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
17.4 million people voted to LEAVE - Get over it ! Edited by Willo (04 Oct 2019 2.03pm) Yes but the problem is the 16.1 million 'losers' who voted Remain. Did you think they would roll over so easily. The discussions, negotiations, debate, bickering in Parliament has been pretty representative of the vote. I don't believe anyone truely knew what we were voting for otherwise we wouldn't be in such a mess. We will most likely have another delay. Then leave. With a deal. That no one really wants. Everyone will still be complaining. A few people will get richer and a few people will get poorer.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 04 Oct 19 3.06pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Those that refuse to be whipped risk deselection, and those that leave their party because it's views have move away from them, all risk losing their jobs. It's easy to just be a sheep and follow the leader. Others who speak out are facing physical threats. They do this for us and not for themselves. Thats the role of an MP...if they choose to ignore their electorate (save me the boring speech) then they get what they deserve!
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| Lyons550 Shirley 04 Oct 19 3.27pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Entirely false. He isn't doing what "we" wanted. He is attempting to do what some of you want. As you keep telling everyone ad nausea he's doesn't have to do what 'we' want...they do what they think is best for the country (and themselves). You cant have it BOTH ways!
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cryrst  The garden of England 04 Oct 19 3.32pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It would have been helpful if leave had considered what was deliverable or not 3 years ago. Also helpful if the future rule changes from the eu had been put on the table.
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| Midlands Eagle 04 Oct 19 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
As they say "where there's a will there's a way" and that is the problem as neither the EU nor the remainers in parliament have the will to let this country carry out the will of the majority and between them they have brought the UK to where it is today
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| DanH SW2 04 Oct 19 4.32pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
As they say "where there's a will there's a way" and that is the problem as neither the EU nor the remainers in parliament have the will to let this country carry out the will of the majority and between them they have brought the UK to where it is today What about the leavers in parliament that voted against the deal?
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| W12 04 Oct 19 4.51pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
What about the leavers in parliament that voted against the deal? Because it clearly wasn’t Brexit And so this thread, like Parliament, goes around in circles.
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| DanH SW2 04 Oct 19 4.53pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Because it clearly wasn’t Brexit And so this thread, like Parliament, goes around in circles. This is why it will never be resolved. Brexit means a different thing to every single person.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 19 5.02pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The problem with this logic is that “we” consist of “I” and “you”. No it isn't. It consists of you, I and everybody else. The only place it is judged is in Parliament by their duly elected representatives.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 19 5.08pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
17.4 million people voted to LEAVE - Get over it ! Edited by Willo (04 Oct 2019 2.03pm) Not written from a "remainer" perspective at all. It is an analysis of truth and untruth and the impact of propaganda on voting intentions. That you respond as you do is simply the confirmation, if any more is needed, that this propaganda worked and is continuing to work. Democracy is in danger and those who fail to recognise that are helping to destroy it.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 19 5.14pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
No mention there of George Osborne's statement that if the leavers won the vote the economy would collapse straight away and he would have to have an emergency budget I wondered who would make the "whatabout" response. No it didn't but that's because it wasn't trying to analyse the "remain" campaign, which was weak and often playing catch up. Trying to counter the kind of wild claims made by the "leave" campaign produced some equally wild responses. None were what were needed. Whether they balanced each other is a matter of opinion but as this was no way to try to take such a serious decision the point that the referendum was a total failure is well made.
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