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Hrolf The Ganger 22 May 23 6.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
That's what all authoritarians say. 'Trust me bro'. Errrr....no. No accountability equals no trust. You need to 'evolve'. Wisbech wants the entire planet officially run by an oligarchy of faceless unelected men, with a secret plutocracy with dubious intentions pulling their strings. They know what's best for us, just like him.
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Stirlingsays 22 May 23 6.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Wisbech wants the entire planet officially run by an oligarchy of faceless unelected men, with a secret plutocracy with dubious intentions pulling their strings. They know what's best for us, just like him. Seems that way doesn't it.
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becky over the moon 22 May 23 6.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
[Tweet Link] The only way that could be bettered is if the photographer had moved them all two paces to the viewer's left so that all those wreaths appeared as 'halos' round the protagonists' heads. Then we would all have recognized them for the saints they purport to be...
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 22 May 23 9.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Immigration to our country of skilled workers means their skills are unavailable in their home countries, which is particularly important in the healthcare sector. Whilst many skilled healthcare professionals are immigrants , equally there are low-skilled un-skilled healthcare workers who are working on, or about, minimum wage. It could be argued they present a bigger risk to patients because of language difficulties. But hey, they are cheap and available, and like teaching and policing, the entrance exams have been made a little easier to aid recruitment when there are staffing shortages. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (22 May 2023 9.22pm)
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steeleye20 Croydon 22 May 23 10.50pm | |
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A Labour government “wouldn’t turn to immigration as the easy answer” to plugging workforce shortages, Rachel Reeves has said. Too late, brexit has seen to that. The UKs liberal attitude post-brexit sees immigration from India and Africa soar, while many EU workers depart. On course for net migration of a million. 'Arise, Sir Nigel'.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 22 May 23 11.14pm | |
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Labour can say whatever they want at the moment, just a load of words, much the same as the Government. If we really want to know what the parties won't do post election wait for the manifestos
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Stirlingsays 22 May 23 11.41pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
A Labour government “wouldn’t turn to immigration as the easy answer” to plugging workforce shortages, Rachel Reeves has said. Too late, brexit has seen to that. The UKs liberal attitude post-brexit sees immigration from India and Africa soar, while many EU workers depart. On course for net migration of a million. Obviously we disagree on the principle of Brexit, but we would agree that it's been used to turn on the immigration tap...directly against what most people voted for. Brexit voters were lied to, just as voters of both Labour and Tories are constantly lied to by their leaders. In a similar fashion no one can trust Labour on immigration, but then again no one can trust the Tories either.....Labour are just playing the Blair rulebook on 'outdoing' the conservatives on conservative principles to cement in those looser Tory votes. Originally posted by steeleye20
'Arise, Sir Nigel'.
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nead1 23 May 23 9.45am | |
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It actually transpires that a lot of the issue to do with the "immigration tap"/growth of numbers, is tied in with how the UK account for foreign students and also allowing them to bring dependents with them - presumably a maximum number is involved. The visas they are issued with allow them to stay for 2 years post graduation (a Johnson decision apparently and reversing the more strident approach of May) and then they leave along with their dependents. They are, of course, paying a significant sum for their education and living costs. From memory, a Masters is at least £20k in fees alone. Providing them with a UK education has many benefits not least to the Universities themselves from a purely financial perspective let alone anything else. It also arguably builds some "loyalty" to the UK from those who have benefitted from the education. Apparently, the largest number of students is now from India followed by China and Nigeria. Surely, a truer picture of immigration would be provided by removing this cohort of people from the immigration statistics given they will only be here for the length of their studies + 2 years. As an aside, I don't recall students featuring as a matter of great public concern vis a vis Brexit and they were not, of course, featured in the dreadful poster that Farage came up with in the lead into the campaign. For me, the whole issue smacks of blaming "minorities/foreigners" for every problem the UK faces - people who are largely unable to defend themselves. Very reminiscent of 1930's Germany.
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 May 23 12.09pm | |
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Originally posted by nead1
It actually transpires that a lot of the issue to do with the "immigration tap"/growth of numbers, is tied in with how the UK account for foreign students and also allowing them to bring dependents with them - presumably a maximum number is involved. The visas they are issued with allow them to stay for 2 years post graduation (a Johnson decision apparently and reversing the more strident approach of May) and then they leave along with their dependents. They are, of course, paying a significant sum for their education and living costs. From memory, a Masters is at least £20k in fees alone. Providing them with a UK education has many benefits not least to the Universities themselves from a purely financial perspective let alone anything else. It also arguably builds some "loyalty" to the UK from those who have benefitted from the education. Apparently, the largest number of students is now from India followed by China and Nigeria. Surely, a truer picture of immigration would be provided by removing this cohort of people from the immigration statistics given they will only be here for the length of their studies + 2 years. As an aside, I don't recall students featuring as a matter of great public concern vis a vis Brexit and they were not, of course, featured in the dreadful poster that Farage came up with in the lead into the campaign. For me, the whole issue smacks of blaming "minorities/foreigners" for every problem the UK faces - people who are largely unable to defend themselves. Very reminiscent of 1930's Germany. I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where we rounded them up, put them in ghettos, stole their businesses, and made them wear identification badges. A laughable comparison. What you need to think about is the enormous pressure on resources and infrastructure created by sheer numbers and the futile nature of trying to prop up our pensions and labour market by importing people in their millions who will also increase the strain on those in 50 years time. It is short termism, it is idiotic, and it is destroying the fabric of our culture. Brain dead, self serving politicians with big business stuffing their back pockets with cash.
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nead1 23 May 23 12.48pm | |
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I know you appear to live your life focussed on the supposed evils of immigration/minorities; however, let me expand on what you highlighted -
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 May 23 1.19pm | |
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Originally posted by nead1
I know you appear to live your life focussed on the supposed evils of immigration/minorities; however, let me expand on what you highlighted - Do me a favour. The media is saturated with pro diversity propaganda and politicians regularly play the race card with the same inclination. For people like you, any criticism of the multitude of issues mass immigration has caused is dismissed as racism or spuriously related to Nazi Germany. I express opinions on a football website when I'm not busy doing something else. I'm usually focussed on things that are closer to home than politics. What is your mentality? Do you just like virtue signalling all day long or do you take time off?
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nead1 23 May 23 2.10pm | |
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It seems to me that your focus is almost exclusively associated with your views on race and immigration. Anyway, it was an interesting "debate" and I somehow sense that neither I nor others will change your perception just as you won't mine. My "mentality", by the way, kind of speaks for itself.
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