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HKOwen Hong Kong 19 Oct 21 1.57am
It is a mystery with such insight you are not managing a PL team. Have you dropped a note to Newcastle? Originally posted by Mathers His subs have been to look fantastic because his starting XI was wrong. Olise has played cumulative 45 mins so far this season. 1 goal and 1 assist. Ayew has contributed naff all. Tonight he got them wrong. Tomkins was clearly not the right choice to come on. Equally I am not surprised we have conceded 2 x 94th min equalisers when Kouyate has been on the pitch. He’s a f*ing liability and the s* headed clearance tonight that gave them the corner sums him up perfectly. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 19 Oct 21 1.57am

It is a mystery with such insight you are not managing a PL team. Have you dropped a note to Newcastle?

Originally posted by Mathers

His subs have been to look fantastic because his starting XI was wrong.

Olise has played cumulative 45 mins so far this season. 1 goal and 1 assist. Ayew has contributed naff all.

Tonight he got them wrong. Tomkins was clearly not the right choice to come on. Equally I am not surprised we have conceded 2 x 94th min equalisers when Kouyate has been on the pitch. He’s a f***ing liability and the s*** headed clearance tonight that gave them the corner sums him up perfectly.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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thai-eagle chiang mai 19 Oct 21 2.31am
OK, the last ten minutes were bad, but all in all a highly impressive game seen with Eagle eyes. Now I am a proud Palace fan. To give Arsenal such a run for their money, I love it. Long may it last and with Eze, Zaha, and hopefully, Hughes (for Kouyate) waiting in the wings, we are in for our best season since promotion all those years ago.
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chiang mai 19 Oct 21 2.31am

OK, the last ten minutes were bad, but all in all a highly impressive game seen with Eagle eyes. Now I am a proud Palace fan. To give Arsenal such a run for their money, I love it. Long may it last and with Eze, Zaha, and hopefully, Hughes (for Kouyate) waiting in the wings, we are in for our best season since promotion all those years ago.

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2424 19 Oct 21 4.14am
Yes we should be six points further up the table, 3 games we deserved to win but didn't. But our quality of play,creativity and fighting spirit should be acknowledged. Who realistically thought we'd be performing this well so early into PV's reign? I think he's doing fabulous job and the results will come.
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19 Oct 21 4.14am

Yes we should be six points further up the table, 3 games we deserved to win but didn't. But our quality of play,creativity and fighting spirit should be acknowledged.
Who realistically thought we'd be performing this well so early into PV's reign? I think he's doing fabulous job and the results will come.

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dreamwaverider London 19 Oct 21 4.42am
I don’t know what we are doing in training but individuall the players are getting better by the game. Benteke, Ward, Mitchell, MacArthur, Zaha, Edouard, all ñoticeably better. Our two centre backs were very polished v Arsenal. Even Gary Neville of all people was raving about us. He was clearly very impressed and rightly so.
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I don’t know what we are doing in training but individuall the players are getting better by the game. Benteke, Ward, Mitchell, MacArthur, Zaha, Edouard, all ñoticeably better. Our two centre backs were very polished v Arsenal. Even Gary Neville of all people was raving about us. He was clearly very impressed and rightly so.

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antipodeagle Wellington 19 Oct 21 5.30am
Andy Townsend commented during the second half how relaxed and assured Palace looked in possession compared to Arsenal. To be honest, that wasn't a description or comparison I ever expected to hear in my lifetime.
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Wellington 19 Oct 21 5.30am

Andy Townsend commented during the second half how relaxed and assured Palace looked in possession compared to Arsenal. To be honest, that wasn't a description or comparison I ever expected to hear in my lifetime.

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The Dolphin 19 Oct 21 6.20am
We are moving in the right direction and it is a work in progress and it is great to watch and individually the players have been able to show their talents under PV. However - We cannot continue to concede the way that we have in the last three games - especially against Brighton and last night - we have to play to the end. We will not always play as well as we have been for a variety of reasons from injury to suspension and the fact we are not always going to be allowed to play with freedom. Decisions from PV like last night have to stop - schoolboy error - when on top go for the jugular don't back off. Finally - we only have 8 points regardless of who we have played - we might deserve to have more but we haven't - as they say in golf - there are no pictures on the scorecard - it is about results and right now a few bad games will see us near the bottom of the table. I believe that we will be fine but we need to win when we should and make a habit of it.
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19 Oct 21 6.20am

We are moving in the right direction and it is a work in progress and it is great to watch and individually the players have been able to show their talents under PV.
However -
We cannot continue to concede the way that we have in the last three games - especially against Brighton and last night - we have to play to the end.
We will not always play as well as we have been for a variety of reasons from injury to suspension and the fact we are not always going to be allowed to play with freedom.
Decisions from PV like last night have to stop - schoolboy error - when on top go for the jugular don't back off.
Finally - we only have 8 points regardless of who we have played - we might deserve to have more but we haven't - as they say in golf - there are no pictures on the scorecard - it is about results and right now a few bad games will see us near the bottom of the table.
I believe that we will be fine but we need to win when we should and make a habit of it.

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Casual Orpington 19 Oct 21 6.25am
Was gutted last night. I still think that we deserved all 3 points. But the tierney effort that hit the bar compared to our one in off the bar was mms difference. We are having the opposite effect on games /results as the last few years. Before we offered zero excitement to the fans/football and nicked results through boring negative means. Now we are in people’s faces, closing them down. Basically worth watching. Give me this season any day. The results will pick up no doubt. Was gutted , but a score on 2-2 at 16s made it slightly, and I mean slightly less painful. We are a good side now .
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Orpington 19 Oct 21 6.25am

Was gutted last night. I still think that we deserved all 3 points. But the tierney effort that hit the bar compared to our one in off the bar was mms difference.
We are having the opposite effect on games /results as the last few years. Before we offered zero excitement to the fans/football and nicked results through boring negative means. Now we are in people’s faces, closing them down. Basically worth watching. Give me this season any day. The results will pick up no doubt. Was gutted , but a score on 2-2 at 16s made it slightly, and I mean slightly less painful.
We are a good side now .

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southnorwoodhill 19 Oct 21 6.28am
One thing: Zaha wasn't crucial to our game yesterday, we played in a positive manner without him and he is not now required to be our saviour in each and every game. I hope this releases some pressure on him and he starts to enjoy his football again. I get more excited at the prospect of Olise coming on - direct, quick, no tantrums, and effective. I'm wondering when he will be a starter? Given the post match comments by PV on the thinking behind the substitution it is apparent that cover for Ward is high in the reckoning, this probably explains why Ayew gets to start. We still haven't got the right back position sorted.
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One thing: Zaha wasn't crucial to our game yesterday, we played in a positive manner without him and he is not now required to be our saviour in each and every game. I hope this releases some pressure on him and he starts to enjoy his football again. I get more excited at the prospect of Olise coming on - direct, quick, no tantrums, and effective. I'm wondering when he will be a starter?
Given the post match comments by PV on the thinking behind the substitution it is apparent that cover for Ward is high in the reckoning, this probably explains why Ayew gets to start. We still haven't got the right back position sorted.

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kev64 Cambs 19 Oct 21 6.31am
Originally posted by antipodeagle Most frustrating thing is that in spite of how well we have played since the Chelsea game, we're still sitting in 14th. Whereas Brighton are sitting in 4th and, I would argue, haven't played any better than us on average across all games so far. Maybe it's down to the shift in the way we play: under Potter Brighton started playing attractive, possession-based football, but struggled to pick up the points their performances deserved. Now that's bedded in and they've added a couple more players to suit their style, they've managed to change this. We're now in a similar situation with a manager new to the Prem (at manager level), and a revolutionary change in the way we play football. Hopefully with a little more bedding in and a couple more changes in personnel to suit the system (Hughes for Milivojevic?) we can start converting performances into maximum points. We also haven't really played a poor team yet (apart from Spurs), so it'll be interesting to see how we do in the games where we're expected to win points, which was one of Roy's strengths. Newcastle next, so we're about to find out. You look at BHA fixtures so far compared to ours .. no top six , let’s see how they do in the next 3 against City, Leicester and Liverpool. They managed a 0-0 against Norwich last weekend, hardly champions league form. We are playing the best football in decades with PV after only a handful of games, life is good with no Royball, the wins will come. Just hoping Steve Bruce is still manager on Saturday.
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Cambs 19 Oct 21 6.31am

Originally posted by antipodeagle

Most frustrating thing is that in spite of how well we have played since the Chelsea game, we're still sitting in 14th. Whereas Brighton are sitting in 4th and, I would argue, haven't played any better than us on average across all games so far.

Maybe it's down to the shift in the way we play: under Potter Brighton started playing attractive, possession-based football, but struggled to pick up the points their performances deserved. Now that's bedded in and they've added a couple more players to suit their style, they've managed to change this.

We're now in a similar situation with a manager new to the Prem (at manager level), and a revolutionary change in the way we play football. Hopefully with a little more bedding in and a couple more changes in personnel to suit the system (Hughes for Milivojevic?) we can start converting performances into maximum points.

We also haven't really played a poor team yet (apart from Spurs), so it'll be interesting to see how we do in the games where we're expected to win points, which was one of Roy's strengths. Newcastle next, so we're about to find out.

You look at BHA fixtures so far compared to ours .. no top six , let’s see how they do in the next 3 against City, Leicester and Liverpool. They managed a 0-0 against Norwich last weekend, hardly champions league form.

We are playing the best football in decades with PV after only a handful of games, life is good with no Royball, the wins will come. Just hoping Steve Bruce is still manager on Saturday.

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slubglurge welling 19 Oct 21 6.48am
Gutted to concede but absolutely loving the way we are playing. What this game did prove is that we are a good team with or without Wilf
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welling 19 Oct 21 6.48am

Gutted to concede but absolutely loving the way we are playing. What this game did prove is that we are a good team with or without Wilf

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taylors lovechild 19 Oct 21 6.51am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill One thing: Zaha wasn't crucial to our game yesterday, we played in a positive manner without him and he is not now required to be our saviour in each and every game. I hope this releases some pressure on him and he starts to enjoy his football again. I get more excited at the prospect of Olise coming on - direct, quick, no tantrums, and effective. I'm wondering when he will be a starter? Given the post match comments by PV on the thinking behind the substitution it is apparent that cover for Ward is high in the reckoning, this probably explains why Ayew gets to start. We still haven't got the right back position sorted. Olise got back and supported Ward as much as Ayew when he came on and stats from the previous game showed he offered defensive cover in that one too. I actually thought Ayew had a reasonably good game, but Olise once again offered something Ayew didn't: end product. The one thing that might be favouring Ayew, however, is experience. Personally I don't think Vieira will be able to leave Olise on the bench for much longer though. Overall a great night's work. We looked a bit panicky at the end which cost us, but given the fixtures we've had 8 points is a respectable haul. The question now is how we'll fare against weaker teams like Newcastle who are more likely to go direct to avoid the press. Whatever the case, Vieira continues to impress. I imagine many Arsenal fans watched on with envy last night given our new team was assembled for the price of one Pepe!
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Olise got back and supported Ward as much as Ayew when he came on and stats from the previous game showed he offered defensive cover in that one too. I actually thought Ayew had a reasonably good game, but Olise once again offered something Ayew didn't: end product. The one thing that might be favouring Ayew, however, is experience. Personally I don't think Vieira will be able to leave Olise on the bench for much longer though.

Overall a great night's work. We looked a bit panicky at the end which cost us, but given the fixtures we've had 8 points is a respectable haul. The question now is how we'll fare against weaker teams like Newcastle who are more likely to go direct to avoid the press. Whatever the case, Vieira continues to impress. I imagine many Arsenal fans watched on with envy last night given our new team was assembled for the price of one Pepe!

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Daddyorc Atlantic Highlands, NJ 19 Oct 21 7.25am
Who we’ve played this season: = win, = loss = draw H = home A = away Chelsea 8 6 1 1 16 3 13 19 A Liverpool 8 5 3 0 22 6 16 18 A Man City 8 5 2 1 16 3 13 17 Brighton 8 4 3 1 8 5 3 15 H Tottenham 8 5 0 3 9 12 -3 15 H Man Utd 8 4 2 2 16 10 6 14 West Ham 8 4 2 2 15 10 5 14 A Everton 8 4 2 2 13 9 4 14 Brentford 8 3 3 2 10 7 3 12 H Wolves 8 4 0 4 8 8 0 12 Leicester City 8 3 2 3 13 14 -1 11 H Arsenal 8 3 2 3 7 12 -5 11 A Aston Villa 8 3 1 4 12 12 0 10 Crystal Palace 8 1 5 2 10 13 -3 8 Southampton 8 1 4 3 6 10 -4 7 Watford 8 2 1 5 7 15 -8 7 Leeds Utd 8 1 3 4 7 15 -8 6 Burnley 8 0 3 5 5 13 -8 3 Newcastle 8 0 3 5 10 19 -9 3 Norwich 8 0 2 6 2 16 -14 2 So probably the hardest schedule in the premier league so far!
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Daddyorc

Atlantic Highlands, NJ 19 Oct 21 7.25am

Who we’ve played this season:

= win, = loss = draw H = home A = away

Chelsea 8 6 1 1 16 3 13 19 A
Liverpool 8 5 3 0 22 6 16 18 A
Man City 8 5 2 1 16 3 13 17
Brighton 8 4 3 1 8 5 3 15 H
Tottenham 8 5 0 3 9 12 -3 15 H
Man Utd 8 4 2 2 16 10 6 14
West Ham 8 4 2 2 15 10 5 14 A
Everton 8 4 2 2 13 9 4 14
Brentford 8 3 3 2 10 7 3 12 H
Wolves 8 4 0 4 8 8 0 12
Leicester City 8 3 2 3 13 14 -1 11 H
Arsenal 8 3 2 3 7 12 -5 11 A
Aston Villa 8 3 1 4 12 12 0 10
Crystal Palace 8 1 5 2 10 13 -3 8
Southampton 8 1 4 3 6 10 -4 7
Watford 8 2 1 5 7 15 -8 7
Leeds Utd 8 1 3 4 7 15 -8 6
Burnley 8 0 3 5 5 13 -8 3
Newcastle 8 0 3 5 10 19 -9 3
Norwich 8 0 2 6 2 16 -14 2

So probably the hardest schedule in the premier league so far!

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