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kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 07 Nov 20 8.20pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig I have been disappointed by Clyne so far, but reckon he should now be ready to start delivering. His first game was a shocker and his second not much better - but there was a clear improvement today. He has still got a fair way to go - but he is improving and that's they key. He also seemed much fitter today. Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978
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born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 07 Nov 20 8.20pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I have been disappointed by Clyne so far, but reckon he should now be ready to start delivering.

His first game was a shocker and his second not much better - but there was a clear improvement today. He has still got a fair way to go - but he is improving and that's they key. He also seemed much fitter today.

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

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steeleye20 Croydon 07 Nov 20 8.29pm
Really impressed by the strength of the Palace bench. Some very good personnel not even making it.
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Croydon 07 Nov 20 8.29pm

Really impressed by the strength of the Palace bench.

Some very good personnel not even making it.

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EddieMac 07 Nov 20 8.55pm
Originally posted by kevlee His first game was a shocker and his second not much better - but there was a clear improvement today. He has still got a fair way to go - but he is improving and that's they key. He also seemed much fitter today. The bloke hadn’t played a match in a year then unexpectedly got launched into action. He deserves a lot of credit not critsim.
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EddieMac

07 Nov 20 8.55pm

Originally posted by kevlee

The bloke hadn’t played a match in a year then unexpectedly got launched into action. He deserves a lot of credit not critsim.

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PA Bedfordshire 07 Nov 20 9.19pm
Originally posted by becky Yes, and it's a shame that that's the other 'ism that football hasn't addressed - after years of good, competant service as an assistant referee at this level, it's about time she was given the central role. She's earned it! You’re right but it won’t happen. Apparently you have to decide whether to be a ref or an assistant ref and you don’t ever then move to other role. So no Assistant Refs will ever be actual refs (in the Premier League that is) Edited by PA (07 Nov 2020 9.21pm)
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Bedfordshire 07 Nov 20 9.19pm

Originally posted by becky

Yes, and it's a shame that that's the other 'ism that football hasn't addressed - after years of good, competant service as an assistant referee at this level, it's about time she was given the central role. She's earned it!

You’re right but it won’t happen. Apparently you have to decide whether to be a ref or an assistant ref and you don’t ever then move to other role. So no Assistant Refs will ever be actual refs (in the Premier League that is)

Edited by PA (07 Nov 2020 9.21pm)

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BM 07 Nov 20 9.27pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink ..Bats is just inches away from fitting in as well as Ayew. Batshuayi is a deadly finisher but offers nothing else. Ayew is miles better and so is Benteke.
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07 Nov 20 9.27pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

..Bats is just inches away from fitting in as well as Ayew.

Batshuayi is a deadly finisher but offers nothing else. Ayew is miles better and so is Benteke.

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becky over the moon 07 Nov 20 9.28pm
Originally posted by PA You’re right but it won’t happen. Apparently you have to decide whether to be a ref or an assistant ref and you don’t ever then move to other role. So no Assistant Refs will ever be actual refs (in the Premier League that is) Edited by PA (07 Nov 2020 9.21pm) Hmmmm,but I'm not sure that was a choice that she was allowed to make. She referees in both the league and women's football at all levels (including internationals) so it seems it's just the Premier league that have a glass ceiling for women referees. If it's to be broken one day, I hope that it's Sian that does it. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 07 Nov 20 9.28pm

Originally posted by PA

Edited by PA (07 Nov 2020 9.21pm)

Hmmmm,but I'm not sure that was a choice that she was allowed to make. She referees in both the league and women's football at all levels (including internationals) so it seems it's just the Premier league that have a glass ceiling for women referees.

If it's to be broken one day, I hope that it's Sian that does it.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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BM 07 Nov 20 9.29pm
Originally posted by kevlee Wilf, Eze, Jairo, Andros, great attacking potential. Why cant we do that every week? I also though Scott Dann was excellent and Clyne was 100% better than last week. Jeff Schlupp was very composed when he came on - a very experienced option off the bench. Don't change the team Roy unless you have to - although Cahill seems to be coming back - so Dann will be sacrificed? A great day and very happy!! Dropping Dann for Cahill would be mad. There seems to be this idea Cahill is first choice. It is based only on his past achievements. A steady option if we have injuries but that’s it.
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07 Nov 20 9.29pm

Originally posted by kevlee

Wilf, Eze, Jairo, Andros, great attacking potential. Why cant we do that every week?
I also though Scott Dann was excellent and Clyne was 100% better than last week. Jeff Schlupp was very composed when he came on - a very experienced option off the bench.
Don't change the team Roy unless you have to - although Cahill seems to be coming back - so Dann will be sacrificed?
A great day and very happy!!

Dropping Dann for Cahill would be mad. There seems to be this idea Cahill is first choice. It is based only on his past achievements. A steady option if we have injuries but that’s it.

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Kant exeter 07 Nov 20 9.53pm
“Football is dead. Cricket is my number 1 now.” Cricket has had its equivalent of VAR for years and works well because the laws are sensible. 90% of the criticism directed at VAR is actually misdirected. VAR upholds the laws, and it’s the laws that most people don’t like. The laws say you are offside if your arm is off. The laws say it’s handball if the ball hits your arm unintentionally. Change the laws, not VAR. And by the way, if we did ditch VAR, imagine the outcry the next time we conceded a goal that was clearly offside, or conceded a penalty to an obvious dive or had a goal ruled out quite unfairly.
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exeter 07 Nov 20 9.53pm

“Football is dead. Cricket is my number 1 now.”

Cricket has had its equivalent of VAR for years and works well because the laws are sensible. 90% of the criticism directed at VAR is actually misdirected. VAR upholds the laws, and it’s the laws that most people don’t like. The laws say you are offside if your arm is off. The laws say it’s handball if the ball hits your arm unintentionally. Change the laws, not VAR.
And by the way, if we did ditch VAR, imagine the outcry the next time we conceded a goal that was clearly offside, or conceded a penalty to an obvious dive or had a goal ruled out quite unfairly.

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Tickled pink Cornwall 07 Nov 20 10.10pm
Originally posted by Kant “Football is dead. Cricket is my number 1 now.” Cricket has had its equivalent of VAR for years and works well because the laws are sensible. 90% of the criticism directed at VAR is actually misdirected. VAR upholds the laws, and it’s the laws that most people don’t like. The laws say you are offside if your arm is off. The laws say it’s handball if the ball hits your arm unintentionally. Change the laws, not VAR. And by the way, if we did ditch VAR, imagine the outcry the next time we conceded a goal that was clearly offside, or conceded a penalty to an obvious dive or had a goal ruled out quite unfairly. You Kant be serious.
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 07 Nov 20 10.10pm

Originally posted by Kant

“Football is dead. Cricket is my number 1 now.”

You Kant be serious.

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NickinOX Sailing country. 07 Nov 20 10.56pm
Originally posted by Kant “Football is dead. Cricket is my number 1 now.” Cricket has had its equivalent of VAR for years and works well because the laws are sensible. 90% of the criticism directed at VAR is actually misdirected. VAR upholds the laws, and it’s the laws that most people don’t like. The laws say you are offside if your arm is off. The laws say it’s handball if the ball hits your arm unintentionally. Change the laws, not VAR. And by the way, if we did ditch VAR, imagine the outcry the next time we conceded a goal that was clearly offside, or conceded a penalty to an obvious dive or had a goal ruled out quite unfairly. Broadly agree with this. Cricket and rugby both do a far better job with the use of video replays to decide things. They tweaked the laws and have explained things clearly. Right now, whether they are right or wrong the referees in football are not allowed to explain why they made a decision, and VAR is not consistently being used, or the rules applied. The FA needs to change the rules to adapt to the times. Edited by NickinOX (07 Nov 2020 10.57pm) If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Sailing country. 07 Nov 20 10.56pm

Originally posted by Kant

“Football is dead. Cricket is my number 1 now.”

Broadly agree with this. Cricket and rugby both do a far better job with the use of video replays to decide things. They tweaked the laws and have explained things clearly.

Right now, whether they are right or wrong the referees in football are not allowed to explain why they made a decision, and VAR is not consistently being used, or the rules applied. The FA needs to change the rules to adapt to the times.

Edited by NickinOX (07 Nov 2020 10.57pm)

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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jeeagles 07 Nov 20 11.29pm
Originally posted by NickinOX Broadly agree with this. Cricket and rugby both do a far better job with the use of video replays to decide things. They tweaked the laws and have explained things clearly. Right now, whether they are right or wrong the referees in football are not allowed to explain why they made a decision, and VAR is not consistently being used, or the rules applied. The FA needs to change the rules to adapt to the times. Edited by NickinOX (07 Nov 2020 10.57pm) It’s taken a very long time to get it right in rugby. Mark Cueto’s try that the French TMO’s took 4 minutes to disallow is still a travesty. There was loads of controversy about how many phases refs should go back through to. There were lots of complaints about how many and how long refs took to review decisions. Decisions are now very clinical with not much room for intention or interpretation. Much as the offside rulings and handballs have been harsh this season, they are consistent. One of the problems is that the authorities haven’t persisted with rules for long enough for the public to come to terms with them.
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jeeagles

07 Nov 20 11.29pm

Originally posted by NickinOX

Broadly agree with this. Cricket and rugby both do a far better job with the use of video replays to decide things. They tweaked the laws and have explained things clearly.

Edited by NickinOX (07 Nov 2020 10.57pm)

It’s taken a very long time to get it right in rugby. Mark Cueto’s try that the French TMO’s took 4 minutes to disallow is still a travesty. There was loads of controversy about how many phases refs should go back through to. There were lots of complaints about how many and how long refs took to review decisions.

Decisions are now very clinical with not much room for intention or interpretation. Much as the offside rulings and handballs have been harsh this season, they are consistent.

One of the problems is that the authorities haven’t persisted with rules for long enough for the public to come to terms with them.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Nov 20 12.24am
Originally posted by NickinOX Broadly agree with this. Cricket and rugby both do a far better job with the use of video replays to decide things. They tweaked the laws and have explained things clearly. Right now, whether they are right or wrong the referees in football are not allowed to explain why they made a decision, and VAR is not consistently being used, or the rules applied. The FA needs to change the rules to adapt to the times. Edited by NickinOX (07 Nov 2020 10.57pm) It is not the FA but IFAB who establish the Laws of the game.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Nov 20 12.24am

Originally posted by NickinOX

Broadly agree with this. Cricket and rugby both do a far better job with the use of video replays to decide things. They tweaked the laws and have explained things clearly.

Right now, whether they are right or wrong the referees in football are not allowed to explain why they made a decision, and VAR is not consistently being used, or the rules applied. The FA needs to change the rules to adapt to the times.

Edited by NickinOX (07 Nov 2020 10.57pm)

It is not the FA but IFAB who establish the Laws of the game.

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