I know I'm repeating myself, but I feel like it needs stating as often as necessary; but Brexit hasn't even bloody started yet.

And in any case, even if it had, markets take months and months, if not years, to fully adjust to changes in market conditions.

I agree with his point that there was a load of bullsh*t on each side and both campaigns were cringeworthy and patronising in their approaches.

A lot of what is keeping the economy ticking along is the depressed value of the pound. That's good for a short term stimulus but won't do any good in the long run.

Anyway, this thread is about the US elections, let's not derail it. Donald Trump; what a prick.

In terms of hitting inflation targets it probably will. I agree that we're nowhere near the end game yet, not even close.

"The Donald". Where the f*** did that come from and why do morons use/say it?

No wonder Kanye West thinks he has a chance in the future with this shambles of an election.

Optimistic as ever

Actually, you've got two different - and unacceptable - elements of American politics on display here:

1) Trump is a classic example of there being one set of rules for the rich and one for everyone else. He has benefited immensely from subsidies and tax breaks and, when the s*** hit the fan, he was allowed to walk away from his debts and obligations while maintaining his personal wealth. That's an option not available to the rest of us - just try and tell your credit card company that you're not going to pay off your balance but you're going to keep all the stuff you bought with their money.

2) The Clintons didn't grow up dirt poor, but they're from a distinctly middle class background but were fortunate enough to be able to go to law school. Through a career in politics, they have amassed substantial personal wealth, which is amazing given the (relatively) paltry salaries paid for even the top jobs in public service (POTUS pays $400,000/year).

But it's not like they're particularly unusual - if you're a member of Congress and not at least a millionaire, then you're either new, stupid, or Bernie Sanders. The ability of public servants to make money off their jobs is at a level that would be legislated to death if it were in the private sector. Insider trading is absolutely legal for politicians and absolutely practiced to manufacture the enormous personal wealth we see among our public "servants". Why else would you spend a $1 billion to get a job that pays $400,000?

The whole thing is as corrupt as arseholes.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

You haven't left yet.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

This has already been covered by PTJ. We were told this would happen post vote, not post leaving.

Optimistic as ever