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It's time for this nonsense to stop. This government, just like it's predecessor has proved weak and ineffective in dealing with this problem and as a result it has now spiralled out of control. Our truckers are routinely threatened by gangs of feral asylum seekers, riots take place on a regular basis. You can hardly blame the French for being p*ssed off with us for causing this mayhem due to our lax rules and generous benefits system. Why doesn't somebody take ownership of this problem rather than let it fester on like it is. The French could do something about it for starters, but they are about as helpful as the French usually are.
Asylum seekers are not allowed to work in the UK, until granted residency or citizenship. As such they are paid benefits as they are unable to support themselves during appeal processes and applications. Similar to how prisoners get legal aid etc.
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 06 Aug 15 10.28am |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Aug 2015 9.55am
Quote fed up eagle at 05 Aug 2015 5.20pm
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Quote nickgusset at 05 Aug 2015 1.04pm
Quote fed up eagle at 05 Aug 2015 1.03pm
It's time for this nonsense to stop. This government, just like it's predecessor has proved weak and ineffective in dealing with this problem and as a result it has now spiralled out of control. Our truckers are routinely threatened by gangs of feral asylum seekers, riots take place on a regular basis. You can hardly blame the French for being p*ssed off with us for causing this mayhem due to our lax rules and generous benefits system. Why doesn't somebody take ownership of this problem rather than let it fester on like it is. The French could do something about it for starters, but they are about as helpful as the French usually are.
Asylum seekers are not allowed to work in the UK, until granted residency or citizenship. As such they are paid benefits as they are unable to support themselves during appeal processes and applications. Similar to how prisoners get legal aid etc. Do you think that there should be any immigration controls. If so, why do we need them and what should they be?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Aug 15 10.38am |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 06 Aug 2015 10.28am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Aug 2015 9.55am
Quote fed up eagle at 05 Aug 2015 5.20pm
Quote fed up eagle at 05 Aug 2015 1.08pm
Quote nickgusset at 05 Aug 2015 1.04pm
Quote fed up eagle at 05 Aug 2015 1.03pm
It's time for this nonsense to stop. This government, just like it's predecessor has proved weak and ineffective in dealing with this problem and as a result it has now spiralled out of control. Our truckers are routinely threatened by gangs of feral asylum seekers, riots take place on a regular basis. You can hardly blame the French for being p*ssed off with us for causing this mayhem due to our lax rules and generous benefits system. Why doesn't somebody take ownership of this problem rather than let it fester on like it is. The French could do something about it for starters, but they are about as helpful as the French usually are.
Asylum seekers are not allowed to work in the UK, until granted residency or citizenship. As such they are paid benefits as they are unable to support themselves during appeal processes and applications. Similar to how prisoners get legal aid etc. Do you think that there should be any immigration controls. If so, why do we need them and what should they be?
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 fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 06 Aug 15 11.26am |
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Right, it's time to pull up the draw bridge, batten down the hatches. NO MORE IMMIGRANTS, PERIOD. And the ones that are here that aren't supposed to be need to be deported with immediate effect, end of. No more bleeding heart cr@P.
That is of absolutely no surprise whatsoever. I shall continue to feel sorry for you. Anyone so full of anger and hatred must be very troubled.
What I have hatred for is thieves and troublemakers who are on their way here right now, and when your children can't get on the housing ladder because all the properties have been taken by people who have never paid into the system, or if your son/daughter can't get a job because the population has swelled to ridiculous levels and all the unskilled labour jobs have gone then maybe you'll feel some emotion about it, but please. your pitty is neither wanted nor needed, but thanks for the thought son.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Aug 15 11.29am |
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Daily Mail provides a crash course in the dark arts of demonising migrants. Here are some of the basics: 1. Do not refer to migrants as people. It is of the first importance that these people not be seen as human. Instead, use words like ‘figures’, ‘numbers’, ‘influx’ – or indeed, ‘migrant’, which simply means a person who moves from one place to another. 2. Use numbers instead of words where possible. Words can be slippery. To avoid breaking step 1, use numbers like 18,000, as in today’s story. This helps creates the idea of migration as a pest control problem, or a force of nature, rather than a man-made crisis that involves human lives. 3. Use the language of crime. Discuss migrants as you would criminals. Some examples from today’s story are ‘sneak’, ‘evade’, ‘targeting’ and ‘caught’. These are bad people doing a bad thing. They deserve to be punished. (Add a scary picture of dark-skinned people if you can.) 4. Do not quote people who care about migrants. Pick your sources with care. Organisations which worry about the safety of migrants should not be quoted if possible (as they are not in today’s story). This might cause readers to see another side of the story, learn about its context and the causes of migration, hear ideas for solutions, and even empathise with the migrants themselves. Instead, seek quotes from police, tough-guy politicians, truck drivers, British tourists, and so on. 5. Do not speak to migrants. This may be the most important step. Under no circumstances should you interview the people trying to reach Britain. Asking about their experiences and motivations, or just about their family or their favourite food, could risk readers seeing them as human, and should be avoided at all costs. This includes the cost of good stories or honest journalism. There are other steps, and not all of these are kept all the time. Reports of migrants drowning in the Mediterranean has broken through the usual filters as a regrettable anomaly. Generally though, some adherence to the above will ensure you write about migrants correctly. Adam Barnett From [Link] Not wrong!
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 06 Aug 15 11.55am |
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Quote nickgusset at 06 Aug 2015 11.29am
Daily Mail provides a crash course in the dark arts of demonising migrants. Here are some of the basics: 1. Do not refer to migrants as people. It is of the first importance that these people not be seen as human. Instead, use words like ‘figures’, ‘numbers’, ‘influx’ – or indeed, ‘migrant’, which simply means a person who moves from one place to another. 2. Use numbers instead of words where possible. Words can be slippery. To avoid breaking step 1, use numbers like 18,000, as in today’s story. This helps creates the idea of migration as a pest control problem, or a force of nature, rather than a man-made crisis that involves human lives. 3. Use the language of crime. Discuss migrants as you would criminals. Some examples from today’s story are ‘sneak’, ‘evade’, ‘targeting’ and ‘caught’. These are bad people doing a bad thing. They deserve to be punished. (Add a scary picture of dark-skinned people if you can.) 4. Do not quote people who care about migrants. Pick your sources with care. Organisations which worry about the safety of migrants should not be quoted if possible (as they are not in today’s story). This might cause readers to see another side of the story, learn about its context and the causes of migration, hear ideas for solutions, and even empathise with the migrants themselves. Instead, seek quotes from police, tough-guy politicians, truck drivers, British tourists, and so on. 5. Do not speak to migrants. This may be the most important step. Under no circumstances should you interview the people trying to reach Britain. Asking about their experiences and motivations, or just about their family or their favourite food, could risk readers seeing them as human, and should be avoided at all costs. This includes the cost of good stories or honest journalism. There are other steps, and not all of these are kept all the time. Reports of migrants drowning in the Mediterranean has broken through the usual filters as a regrettable anomaly. Generally though, some adherence to the above will ensure you write about migrants correctly. Adam Barnett From [Link] Not wrong! Do you think that there should be any immigration controls. If so, why do we need them and what should they be? Come on - Jamie was not shy.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Aug 15 12.04pm |
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Of course we need immigration controls. First thing is to prevent causing situations worldwide that cause massive population displacement- the source of the problem. The fact is that the whole mess is a debacle, compounded by restrictions and cuts to border services. An inability to get the message across that the UK is not the land of milk and honey. Not helped by the Express, Mail et al saying it is.
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 06 Aug 15 12.11pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 06 Aug 2015 12.04pm
Of course we need immigration controls. First thing is to prevent causing situations worldwide that cause massive population displacement- the source of the problem. The fact is that the whole mess is a debacle, compounded by restrictions and cuts to border services. An inability to get the message across that the UK is not the land of milk and honey. Not helped by the Express, Mail et al saying it is. You heard it here first folks Nick says "WE NEED IMMIGRATION CONTROLS"! Why do we need controls Nick? What problems are the controls to address?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Aug 15 12.18pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 06 Aug 2015 12.11pm
Quote nickgusset at 06 Aug 2015 12.04pm
Of course we need immigration controls. First thing is to prevent causing situations worldwide that cause massive population displacement- the source of the problem. The fact is that the whole mess is a debacle, compounded by restrictions and cuts to border services. An inability to get the message across that the UK is not the land of milk and honey. Not helped by the Express, Mail et al saying it is. You heard it here first folks Nick says "WE NEED IMMIGRATION CONTROLS"! Why do we need controls Nick? What problems are the controls to address?
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| reborn 06 Aug 15 12.34pm |
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Quote fed up eagle at 06 Aug 2015 11.26am
Quote reborn at 06 Aug 2015 7.12am
Quote fed up eagle at 05 Aug 2015 10.13pm
Quote reborn at 05 Aug 2015 10.05pm
Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.05pm
Right, it's time to pull up the draw bridge, batten down the hatches. NO MORE IMMIGRANTS, PERIOD. And the ones that are here that aren't supposed to be need to be deported with immediate effect, end of. No more bleeding heart cr@P.
That is of absolutely no surprise whatsoever. I shall continue to feel sorry for you. Anyone so full of anger and hatred must be very troubled.
What I have hatred for is thieves and troublemakers who are on their way here right now, and when your children can't get on the housing ladder because all the properties have been taken by people who have never paid into the system, or if your son/daughter can't get a job because the population has swelled to ridiculous levels and all the unskilled labour jobs have gone then maybe you'll feel some emotion about it, but please. your pitty is neither wanted nor needed, but thanks for the thought son. Actually Adolf, Anger is an emotion, Hatred is a choice. How you process Anger will determine quite how troubled and miserable you are. Rest assured your desire or permission for me to feel sorry for you is NOT required, I shall do it freely all the same.
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| Catfish Burgess Hill 06 Aug 15 12.37pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 06 Aug 2015 11.29am
Daily Mail provides a crash course in the dark arts of demonising migrants. Here are some of the basics: 1. Do not refer to migrants as people. It is of the first importance that these people not be seen as human. Instead, use words like ‘figures’, ‘numbers’, ‘influx’ – or indeed, ‘migrant’, which simply means a person who moves from one place to another. 2. Use numbers instead of words where possible. Words can be slippery. To avoid breaking step 1, use numbers like 18,000, as in today’s story. This helps creates the idea of migration as a pest control problem, or a force of nature, rather than a man-made crisis that involves human lives. 3. Use the language of crime. Discuss migrants as you would criminals. Some examples from today’s story are ‘sneak’, ‘evade’, ‘targeting’ and ‘caught’. These are bad people doing a bad thing. They deserve to be punished. (Add a scary picture of dark-skinned people if you can.) 4. Do not quote people who care about migrants. Pick your sources with care. Organisations which worry about the safety of migrants should not be quoted if possible (as they are not in today’s story). This might cause readers to see another side of the story, learn about its context and the causes of migration, hear ideas for solutions, and even empathise with the migrants themselves. Instead, seek quotes from police, tough-guy politicians, truck drivers, British tourists, and so on. 5. Do not speak to migrants. This may be the most important step. Under no circumstances should you interview the people trying to reach Britain. Asking about their experiences and motivations, or just about their family or their favourite food, could risk readers seeing them as human, and should be avoided at all costs. This includes the cost of good stories or honest journalism. There are other steps, and not all of these are kept all the time. Reports of migrants drowning in the Mediterranean has broken through the usual filters as a regrettable anomaly. Generally though, some adherence to the above will ensure you write about migrants correctly. Adam Barnett From [Link] Not wrong!
1. Always use images of state repression - eg: razor wire. Misrepresent government action, eg: refer to dogs rather than sniffer dogs. 2. Wring hands over "desperate" "fractured" people. Never allow that somne may be calulating chancers. 3. Lead with children wherever possible. Emotive images of children, even though they are a tiny proportion, help create an impreession of overall helplessness. 4. Selective use of statistics, eg: 1% of those arrested found to be immigration offenders as opposed to 27% of arrests in London are of foreign nationals. 5. Anyone who says they are a refugee must be one rather than have any other motive. The motives of those coming must not be questioned. 6. Assume commonality between current asylum claimants and those fleeing Czarist / Nazi oppression. Imply that anyone who disagrees is a Nazi. 7. Migrants are actually lovely peopole who are hard working and dynamic 8. Migrants are never detained they are imprisoned. Detention centres are actually concentration camps by any other name and are run by sadists. 9. Take control of the use of language. Attack any negative description of migrants and try and make it unacceptable, eg: illegal immigrant. 10. Never interview those who actually deal with migrants as they tend to know what they are talking about.
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 06 Aug 15 12.46pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 06 Aug 2015 12.18pm
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Quote nickgusset at 06 Aug 2015 12.04pm
Of course we need immigration controls. First thing is to prevent causing situations worldwide that cause massive population displacement- the source of the problem. The fact is that the whole mess is a debacle, compounded by restrictions and cuts to border services. An inability to get the message across that the UK is not the land of milk and honey. Not helped by the Express, Mail et al saying it is. You heard it here first folks Nick says "WE NEED IMMIGRATION CONTROLS"! Why do we need controls Nick? What problems are the controls to address?
It is you that is being facile. If you can bring yourself to admit that immigration causes some problems then a discussion can be had about how to address those problems. If there are no problems caused by immigration, then why have controls?
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