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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 05 May 14 4.11pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

With the exception of the environment & what is causing climate change my voice & that of Ukip's are the same, I shall be voting for them.

 


The mountains are calling & I must go.

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 May 14 4.16pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 05 May 2014 3.49pm

Thank you for reposting, Nick. I'm sorry to say that I think it adds almost nothing to the debate.

You are basically saying:

Here are all the things the Tories are doing wrong. They're sinister because they're right wing. UKIP is more right wing than the Tories [a lazy characterisation made without reference to any facts] therefore they must be more sinister.

It's not even proper defamation. It's defamation by proxy!

What evidence do you have for the claim that "UKIP are a party bankrolled by people who think the Tories aren't right wing enough"? Who are these sinister people?

The press have been doing plenty of muck-raking these last few weeks and haven't turned up any dodgy donors from what I've seen.

I agree that the "major" political parties are in hock to dodgy donors. Hence my opposition to the way the machine is run for the Political Class. Hence my support for UKIP. As far as I'm aware, there is no evidence that UKIP is just as corrupt and elite a machine as the 'major' parties.


The post was actually a response to you asking me why I thought the government are fascist rather than in direct relation to the debate in hand. I think it gives evidence to why I made that claim.


As for ukip, I understand why people might support them. But I also think that 1. Looking at their policies beyond the European question, which I posted earlier in the thread, many people who say they will vote for them would disagree with strongly.
And 2. The public don't have much of a clue about the pro's and cons of being in or out of the eu. It's not as if the media have kept us informed of this is it? I myself don't know what the best course of action is !

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 May 14 4.33pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Erm, who are UKIP? Only heard of Barage. If he had another plane crash, would UKIP fade and die immediately?

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 May 14 4.36pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Quote Mapletree at 05 May 2014 4.33pm

Erm, who are UKIP? Only heard of Barage. If he had another plane crash, would UKIP fade and die immediately?

Edited by Mapletree (05 May 2014 4.35pm)


Sorry, of course. They also have Jeffrey Titford, certainly one for the future.

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 May 14 4.37pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Mapletree at 05 May 2014 4.33pm

would UKIP fade and die immediately?

Sounds like a cue for a song "And like my dreams they fade and die......"


 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 May 14 4.38pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Quote Willo at 05 May 2014 4.37pm

Quote Mapletree at 05 May 2014 4.33pm

would UKIP fade and die immediately?

Sounds like a cue for a song "And like my dreams they fade and die......"



Never heard a song that goes like that Willo

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 May 14 4.40pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Mapletree at 05 May 2014 4.38pm


Sounds like a cue for a song "And like my dreams they fade and die......"


Never heard a song that goes like that Willo

Not even at 'Upton Park' ? !!!!


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 May 14 4.41pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Quote Willo at 05 May 2014 4.40pm

Quote Mapletree at 05 May 2014 4.38pm


Sounds like a cue for a song "And like my dreams they fade and die......"


Never heard a song that goes like that Willo

Not even at 'Upton Park' ? !!!!


Edited by Willo (05 May 2014 4.40pm)


Nope, never heard of a place of that name either. Or the Boleyn Ground.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 May 14 4.45pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Mapletree at 05 May 2014 4.41pm

Nope, never heard of a place of that name either. Or the Boleyn Ground.


 

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glazedallover Flag Allier 05 May 14 5.15pm Send a Private Message to glazedallover Add glazedallover as a friend

Quote Willo at 05 May 2014 4.45pm

Quote Mapletree at 05 May 2014 4.41pm

Nope, never heard of a place of that name either. Or the Boleyn Ground.



You forgot to mention you are 62 next birthday.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 May 14 5.17pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote glazedallover at 05 May 2014 5.15pm

You forgot to mention you are 62 next birthday.

Sorry ! I was born in 1952 in Mayday Hospital.


 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 May 14 5.21pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Willo at 05 May 2014 5.17pm

Quote glazedallover at 05 May 2014 5.15pm

You forgot to mention you are 62 next birthday.

Sorry ! I was born in 1952 in Mayday Hospital.It was the year of the "Great smog".



 

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