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 mezzer  Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 21 Jan 20 11.21am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It seems some haven't yet either learned or accepted that. We know it's wrong, just as we know Palace are a better club than Brighton, but if you have grown up in a culture which indoctrinates you then you need the truth to be shown to you. Those unable or unwilling to accept that is the truth, in our culture, will need the stick approach. But you said earlier that these very indoctrinated types need to be educated that what they're doing is wrong first. Who is going to do the educating if they're growing up in an environment of indoctrination? Your views on this come across as being very idealistic whilst avoiding the crux of the matter. It's all very well looking for solutions but there's a problem that needs fixing urgently first. If there was gas leak would you try to stop it initially then see where the problem lies and fix it or would you just ignore it and let it blow up destroying people and property, then wonder why it had happened and vow never to let it happen again?
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 21 Jan 20 11.39am |
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And if your daughter / sister / mother got raped by a pakistani rape gangs, would you bother calling the cops ?
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| W12 21 Jan 20 12.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It seems some haven't yet either learned or accepted that. We know it's wrong, just as we know Palace are a better club than Brighton, but if you have grown up in a culture which indoctrinates you then you need the truth to be shown to you. Those unable or unwilling to accept that is the truth, in our culture, will need the stick approach. How do you expect to re-educate people that live entirely outside our culture in the first place? (What’s left of it). Also, what happens if this is due to factors outside of people just “running the wrong software”? Why should we take the risk of yet more social engineering with our children at stake?
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| Ghostship Norfolk 21 Jan 20 1.16pm |
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Sanjeev Baskar in an old episode of Silent Witness showed the best way to deal with this. His step daughter was being groomed and he found out so decided to set up a dodgy business meeting with the ringleader at a remote location. He then proceeded to smash the hell out of the bloke with a golf club which left him in a rather bad way. Sounds about fair to me.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Jan 20 6.44pm |
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Originally posted by mezzer
But you said earlier that these very indoctrinated types need to be educated that what they're doing is wrong first. Who is going to do the educating if they're growing up in an environment of indoctrination? We do. We ban all faith schools. We teach our values to all children regardless of their background. Then we find ways to monitor any preacher suspected of fostering hate and alternative values, using all the tools available to our security services. Adults present a more difficult challenge for which the stick will have to be used more often. Nevertheless there are still various interventions we can make. Your views on this come across as being very idealistic whilst avoiding the crux of the matter. It's all very well looking for solutions but there's a problem that needs fixing urgently first. Of course but the underlying problems will still be there and it's at them I am trying to look. If there was gas leak would you try to stop it initially then see where the problem lies and fix it or would you just ignore it and let it blow up destroying people and property, then wonder why it had happened and vow never to let it happen again? Yes and that's pretty much what I am suggesting. Having a follow up plan seems essential to me.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Jan 20 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by Ghostship
Sanjeev Baskar in an old episode of Silent Witness showed the best way to deal with this. His step daughter was being groomed and he found out so decided to set up a dodgy business meeting with the ringleader at a remote location. He then proceeded to smash the hell out of the bloke with a golf club which left him in a rather bad way. Sounds about fair to me. Sounds to me that the ringleader would end up in hospital, his assailant in prison and his daughter in severe danger.
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Teddy Eagle  21 Jan 20 7.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Sounds to me that the ringleader would end up in hospital, his assailant in prison and his daughter in severe danger. Or the ringleader in prison, the assailant in the pub and his daughter safe.
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| ex hibitionist Hastings 21 Jan 20 8.08pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Or the ringleader in prison, the assailant in the pub and his daughter safe. or the daughter in the pub with the ring leader and the assailant in the golf club or some sort of permutation, and why are these grooming gangs always on the bl**dy phone?
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| Teddy Eagle 21 Jan 20 8.12pm |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
or the daughter in the pub with the ring leader and the assailant in the golf club or some sort of permutation, and why are these grooming gangs always on the bl**dy phone? Because they also run corner shops?
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| W12 21 Jan 20 8.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Sounds to me that the ringleader would end up in hospital, his assailant in prison and his daughter in severe danger. That wouldn't be the case in any non-western country but that's what you are peddling as progress (or more accurately "progressiveness" ).
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| ex hibitionist Hastings 21 Jan 20 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by W12
That wouldn't be the case in any non-western country but that's what you are peddling as progress (or more accurately "progressiveness" ). that's right Eastern countries have the right idea, countries like pakistan, I blame it all on Britney Spears and that video she did
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Jan 20 10.33pm |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
that's right Eastern countries have the right idea, countries like pakistan, I blame it all on Britney Spears and that video she did You alright? Had your hour of the leather mask unzipped today?
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