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 Teddy Eagle  18 Apr 23 8.50pm |
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Originally posted by footythoughts
I'm not sure that it's strange at all, it's a pointless intentionally inflated social divide that's stoked as way of distracting from issues that actually matter and impact people on on a wide scale. Povery, wealth gap etc. Easier to set the plebs against each other than to have them concentrate on how their country has been run into the ground by governments who listen to wealth and power infinitely more than those who lend them their votes. If the option is starting a war as a distraction then this is better.
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steeleye20  Croydon 18 Apr 23 8.52pm |
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Originally posted by footythoughts
I'm not sure that it's strange at all, it's a pointless intentionally inflated social divide that's stoked as way of distracting from issues that actually matter and impact people on on a wide scale. Povery, wealth gap etc. Easier to set the plebs against each other than to have them concentrate on how their country has been run into the ground by governments who listen to wealth and power infinitely more than those who lend them their votes. Seconded.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 18 Apr 23 9.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's all covered, in detail, in the links. France is lower than the UK, Germany a little higher. Eastern European countries also a little higher. On average broadly the same. What you are personally witnessing is not a relevant sample. OK whatever......you are obviously such a superior being that the facts from someone who actually lives there and sees what is happening dont concern you.....(the only thing that hasnt gone mentally expensive is a coffee still only 1.20 euro against 4.50 in the Blue Bar Porthtowan Cornwall)
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 georgenorman 18 Apr 23 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by footythoughts
Lack of investment, an ageing population, every major project known to man being a billion pound backhander instead of something designed to help the people. Whether immigration has been a help or hinderance is a factor - though clearly government think they're good for cheap labour -there's clearly a bit more to it than solely immigration. That said it's certainly an issue people should take input on, but this government nor any other in a two party system is likely to do so. Did you vote for PR back in the day or against? That would be a path to more representative governance, whether it's one I personally agree with or not. PR would give us even crazier people in Parliament.
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cryrst  The garden of England 18 Apr 23 9.56pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No one disputes that prices are also rising in the EU. What is disputed is the implied suggestion that they are worse than in the UK, which simply isn't true. The rate of inflation is broadly similar, with some EU countries (especially in the East) having higher levels than us, and others (in the West), lower. The poster did not say it was worse than the UK. Where did you see that ?
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| footythoughts Beckenham 18 Apr 23 9.56pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
PR would give us even crazier people in Parliament. The options realistically are a two party system that's relatively easy to control by those with significant financial and power sway. Or a PR option that at least means the public views, whatever they are, are accurately reflected in parliament. Representative. That would then mean compromise, but it would throw up enough variations that it'd be harder to control by those who previously influenced. Of course some also have time for fascist parties who disregard the public voice, as a way of bringing about their preferred society. That speaks to the gutter level of their views and conduct though, rather than something fit for the country at large. What would you preference be, I'm guessing a begrudged acceptance of the current system, with a hope that people will make better choices going forward?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Apr 23 9.57pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
OK whatever......you are obviously such a superior being that the facts from someone who actually lives there and sees what is happening dont concern you.....(the only thing that hasnt gone mentally expensive is a coffee still only 1.20 euro against 4.50 in the Blue Bar Porthtowan Cornwall) Even you must be able to see quite how ridiculous that comment is. It's not me that's superior! It is the statistics gathered from accurate sampling of many sources that are superior to two cups of coffee.
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| cryrst The garden of England 18 Apr 23 9.58pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I see. Yet the clear damage that continues to be inflicted by Brexit somehow isn’t. Me and mine as I see it arnt affected, are yours?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Apr 23 9.59pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
The poster did not say it was worse than the UK. Where did you see that ? I said it was implied, not stated. Something he has confirmed in subsequent posts.
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| footythoughts Beckenham 18 Apr 23 10.03pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Me and mine as I see it arnt affected, are yours? What a relief for the country. It's okay guys, all is well.
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| cryrst The garden of England 18 Apr 23 10.07pm |
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Originally posted by footythoughts
What a relief for the country. It's okay guys, all is well. If the cap fits are you affected then? Show facts and evidence, without using statements from financial institutions whom never wanted brexit anyway. Oh btw me and mine voted remain, you on the other hand !!!
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| cryrst The garden of England 18 Apr 23 10.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I said it was implied, not stated. Something he has confirmed in subsequent posts. Where, what posts? Implying something isn’t the same as stating it. You read something that wasn’t and isn’t there! Go on admit it wissie, you were wrong
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