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W12 23 Nov 18 3.33pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC I also think the perception of looming anarchy and social breakdown related to that is a bit strong. Out of interest have you arrived at that opinion though media coverage or through your own experience in your local area? Edited by SW19 CPFC (23 Nov 2018 3.05pm) I think it's already happening, society is breaking down all over the place. No police on the streets. Moped gangs and murders all over the place, fatherless children demanding "respect". Communities living segregated lives. 3rd world attitudes imported into our country at a rate we cannot absorb and an angry and resentful underclass. That last point is the key to long term survival i.e. the ability to adapt to the speed of change and I think we are on a losing trajectory at the moment.
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W12 23 Nov 18 3.33pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
I also think the perception of looming anarchy and social breakdown related to that is a bit strong. Out of interest have you arrived at that opinion though media coverage or through your own experience in your local area?
Edited by SW19 CPFC (23 Nov 2018 3.05pm)

I think it's already happening, society is breaking down all over the place. No police on the streets. Moped gangs and murders all over the place, fatherless children demanding "respect". Communities living segregated lives. 3rd world attitudes imported into our country at a rate we cannot absorb and an angry and resentful underclass.

That last point is the key to long term survival i.e. the ability to adapt to the speed of change and I think we are on a losing trajectory at the moment.

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W12 23 Nov 18 3.37pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yep, agreed, advocating violence isn't good. 100% Feels like this is currently the realm of the ANTIFA mob though who fortunately can't fight their way out of a paper bag. I think generally the real far right I think are just so small in real numbers. We are just not a very racist country and haven't been for a long time.
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W12 23 Nov 18 3.37pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, agreed, advocating violence isn't good.

100%

Feels like this is currently the realm of the ANTIFA mob though who fortunately can't fight their way out of a paper bag.

I think generally the real far right I think are just so small in real numbers. We are just not a very racist country and haven't been for a long time.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 23 Nov 18 3.44pm
Originally posted by W12 I think it's already happening, society is breaking down all over the place. No police on the streets. Moped gangs and murders all over the place, fatherless children demanding "respect". Communities living segregated lives. 3rd world attitudes imported into our country at a rate we cannot absorb and an angry and resentful underclass. That last point is the key to long term survival i.e. the ability to adapt to the speed of change and I think we are on a losing trajectory at the moment. I'd agree that pace of change is an issue, as per the automation point. As for how bad it actually is right now, if you only read the Mail, it's the worst it's ever been and we're all doomed, doomed I tells ya. But I don't agree. And I haven't run away to the shires, looking from the outside in and attempting to portray a qualified opinion based only on my subjective perception of how things were + the media. That's not to say we couldn't get there in the next 30 years, but not right now. Even then, it won't be anywhere near as bad as 536AD, apparently. Anyway, back to Stevey, bless him Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 23 Nov 18 3.44pm

Originally posted by W12

That last point is the key to long term survival i.e. the ability to adapt to the speed of change and I think we are on a losing trajectory at the moment.

I'd agree that pace of change is an issue, as per the automation point.

As for how bad it actually is right now, if you only read the Mail, it's the worst it's ever been and we're all doomed, doomed I tells ya. But I don't agree. And I haven't run away to the shires, looking from the outside in and attempting to portray a qualified opinion based only on my subjective perception of how things were + the media.

That's not to say we couldn't get there in the next 30 years, but not right now. Even then, it won't be anywhere near as bad as 536AD, apparently.

Anyway, back to Stevey, bless him

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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W12 23 Nov 18 3.51pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC I'd agree that pace of change is an issue, as per the automation point. As for how bad it actually is right now, if you only read the Mail, it's the worst it's ever been and we're all doomed, doomed I tells ya. But I don't agree. And I haven't run away to the shires, looking from the outside in and attempting to portray a qualified opinion based only on my subjective perception of how things were + the media. That's not to say we couldn't get there in the next 30 years, but not right now. Even then, it won't be anywhere near as bad as 536AD, apparently. Anyway, back to Stevey, bless him I'm with you on the automation things by the the way (and AI). The other things is there are many existential threats we should be working on especially climate change and the proliferation of nuclear and biological weapons. All this is a distraction. 30 years is a huge underestimate by the way unless things significantly change for the better and people stop pointing fingers and start talking. Edited by W12 (23 Nov 2018 3.51pm)
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W12 23 Nov 18 3.51pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I'd agree that pace of change is an issue, as per the automation point.

That's not to say we couldn't get there in the next 30 years, but not right now. Even then, it won't be anywhere near as bad as 536AD, apparently.

Anyway, back to Stevey, bless him

I'm with you on the automation things by the the way (and AI). The other things is there are many existential threats we should be working on especially climate change and the proliferation of nuclear and biological weapons. All this is a distraction.

30 years is a huge underestimate by the way unless things significantly change for the better and people stop pointing fingers and start talking.

Edited by W12 (23 Nov 2018 3.51pm)

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Stirlingsays 23 Nov 18 3.56pm
Originally posted by W12 100% Feels like this is currently the realm of the ANTIFA mob though who fortunately can't fight their way out of a paper bag. I think generally the real far right I think are just so small in real numbers. We are just not a very racist country and haven't been for a long time. I view the whole 'racism' charge as a disfigurement of the language.....In fact it's by control of the language that the left and internationalists look to demonise and suppress their opponents. I think some of them actually believe it and the more smarter ones know that's it's a exaggerated weaponised tactic.....but it's political tribalism and all that matters is winning the culture war. In reality we just witness huge hypocrisies......there is what people say....and then there is what people do. In reality all groups separate themselves by majority behaviour into their own areas. This has been statistically looked into before....It's only a small percent who don't or those who can't afford otherwise. Any look at a demographic area reveals the difference between the truth and lies. Society in the UK will become increasingly balkanized along class lines which goes hand in hand with race.....It's already the case but it'll just increase. People will talk warm words but actions always speak far louder than words for those with more than two brain cells......and I have zero issues with that....only with the hypocrites. In the cities and in the poorer towns in the country social cohesion is going to get worse and violence will increase. It's not a happy message I know. Sorry and all that......on the upside I've just finished buying all my Xmas presents and I'm currently mulling over getting some spiced wine for after Christmas dinner. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Nov 18 3.56pm

Originally posted by W12

100%

Feels like this is currently the realm of the ANTIFA mob though who fortunately can't fight their way out of a paper bag.

I think generally the real far right I think are just so small in real numbers. We are just not a very racist country and haven't been for a long time.

I view the whole 'racism' charge as a disfigurement of the language.....In fact it's by control of the language that the left and internationalists look to demonise and suppress their opponents.

I think some of them actually believe it and the more smarter ones know that's it's a exaggerated weaponised tactic.....but it's political tribalism and all that matters is winning the culture war.

In reality we just witness huge hypocrisies......there is what people say....and then there is what people do.

In reality all groups separate themselves by majority behaviour into their own areas. This has been statistically looked into before....It's only a small percent who don't or those who can't afford otherwise. Any look at a demographic area reveals the difference between the truth and lies.

Society in the UK will become increasingly balkanized along class lines which goes hand in hand with race.....It's already the case but it'll just increase.

People will talk warm words but actions always speak far louder than words for those with more than two brain cells......and I have zero issues with that....only with the hypocrites.

In the cities and in the poorer towns in the country social cohesion is going to get worse and violence will increase.

It's not a happy message I know.

Sorry and all that......on the upside I've just finished buying all my Xmas presents and I'm currently mulling over getting some spiced wine for after Christmas dinner.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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silvertop Portishead 23 Nov 18 4.44pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I view the whole 'racism' charge as a disfigurement of the language.....In fact it's by control of the language that the left and internationalists look to demonise and suppress their opponents. I think some of them actually believe it and the more smarter ones know that's it's a exaggerated weaponised tactic.....but it's political tribalism and all that matters is winning the culture war. In reality we just witness huge hypocrisies......there is what people say....and then there is what people do. In reality all groups separate themselves by majority behaviour into their own areas. This has been statistically looked into before....It's only a small percent who don't or those who can't afford otherwise. Any look at a demographic area reveals the difference between the truth and lies. Society in the UK will become increasingly balkanized along class lines which goes hand in hand with race.....It's already the case but it'll just increase. People will talk warm words but actions always speak far louder than words for those with more than two brain cells......and I have zero issues with that....only with the hypocrites. In the cities and in the poorer towns in the country social cohesion is going to get worse and violence will increase. It's not a happy message I know. Sorry and all that......on the upside I've just finished buying all my Xmas presents and I'm currently mulling over getting some spiced wine for after Christmas dinner. Pun?
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Portishead 23 Nov 18 4.44pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I view the whole 'racism' charge as a disfigurement of the language.....In fact it's by control of the language that the left and internationalists look to demonise and suppress their opponents.

I think some of them actually believe it and the more smarter ones know that's it's a exaggerated weaponised tactic.....but it's political tribalism and all that matters is winning the culture war.

In reality we just witness huge hypocrisies......there is what people say....and then there is what people do.

Society in the UK will become increasingly balkanized along class lines which goes hand in hand with race.....It's already the case but it'll just increase.

People will talk warm words but actions always speak far louder than words for those with more than two brain cells......and I have zero issues with that....only with the hypocrites.

In the cities and in the poorer towns in the country social cohesion is going to get worse and violence will increase.

It's not a happy message I know.

Sorry and all that......on the upside I've just finished buying all my Xmas presents and I'm currently mulling over getting some spiced wine for after Christmas dinner.

Pun?

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Stirlingsays 23 Nov 18 4.47pm
Originally posted by silvertop Pun? I mulled over it. Been getting into the festive spirit and all that. I can't seem to stop myself from buying interesting looking baubles at the moment. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

23 Nov 18 4.47pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Pun?

I mulled over it.

Been getting into the festive spirit and all that.

I can't seem to stop myself from buying interesting looking baubles at the moment.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Badger11 Beckenham 23 Nov 18 4.50pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I mulled over it. Been getting into the festive spirit and all that. I can't seem to stop myself from buying interesting looking baubles at the moment. Well don't buy the Brexit deal it looks shiny and tinsley but like some Christmas presents it falls apart by boxing day. One more point
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Beckenham 23 Nov 18 4.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I mulled over it.

Been getting into the festive spirit and all that.

I can't seem to stop myself from buying interesting looking baubles at the moment.

Well don't buy the Brexit deal it looks shiny and tinsley but like some Christmas presents it falls apart by boxing day.

One more point

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Stirlingsays 23 Nov 18 4.53pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Well don't buy the Brexit deal it looks shiny and tinsley but like some Christmas presents it falls apart by boxing day. It has about the same chance of getting through parliament that Diane Abbott's vibrator has of making it through the two year warranty. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Nov 2018 4.57pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

23 Nov 18 4.53pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Well don't buy the Brexit deal it looks shiny and tinsley but like some Christmas presents it falls apart by boxing day.

It has about the same chance of getting through parliament that Diane Abbott's vibrator has of making it through the two year warranty.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Nov 2018 4.57pm)

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 23 Nov 18 4.54pm
As a bit of a UKIP fan boy I find the whole Robinson thing a bit of an unnecessary distraction, UKIP seem to be getting back to some decent numbers, it's just going to cause division within the party. I don't really care for half of Robinson's stunts in front of a camera however he does have a big following here & the US so it will be interesting to see if this strengthens or weakens UKIP, I honestly don't have a clue what way it will go. Farage left UKIP in a bit of a financial mess and Batten has done a great job turning that around. regardless of Theresa May's absolute botched abortion of leaving the EU, UKIP membership was steadily increasing under Batten. I suspect the Farage loyalist will leave & I'd imagine there will be a merger with the for Britain party at some point. I will still vote ukip at the next election. Also taking Robinson's anti islam stance out of it he is a proper lefty. Edited by Ouzo Dan (23 Nov 2018 4.56pm) The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Behind you 23 Nov 18 4.54pm

As a bit of a UKIP fan boy I find the whole Robinson thing a bit of an unnecessary distraction, UKIP seem to be getting back to some decent numbers, it's just going to cause division within the party.

I don't really care for half of Robinson's stunts in front of a camera however he does have a big following here & the US so it will be interesting to see if this strengthens or weakens UKIP, I honestly don't have a clue what way it will go.

Farage left UKIP in a bit of a financial mess and Batten has done a great job turning that around. regardless of Theresa May's absolute botched abortion of leaving the EU, UKIP membership was steadily increasing under Batten.

I suspect the Farage loyalist will leave & I'd imagine there will be a merger with the for Britain party at some point.

I will still vote ukip at the next election.

Also taking Robinson's anti islam stance out of it he is a proper lefty.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (23 Nov 2018 4.56pm)

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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Stirlingsays 24 Nov 18 2.53am
Batten talks to be BBC about recent events. [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

24 Nov 18 2.53am

Batten talks to be BBC about recent events.

[Link]

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PalazioVecchio south pole 24 Nov 18 3.37am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Batten talks to be BBC about recent events. [Link] i am surprised the BBC didnt interview Batten with an Anjem Choudery lookalike. they dont like it up them. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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