Very correct, but if we had continued to defend as we had until the mistakes appeared Chelsea quite possibly might not have scored without our help.

We lost 4-0 that says it all completely outclassed on the day, 29% possession, 4 shots, zero on target, corners 5 & fouls 13 (Chelsea 17), so Chelsea committed 4 more fouls than us hardly an excuse for losing the match. Average player ratings Chelsea 6.72 & CP 4.56 (Source BBC Sport).

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Pardew was extremely entertaining, he was basically the opposite of big Sam, Mr Hodgson is roughly halfway and where he should be in order to achieve success on the pitch with the players and funds he has available, if fans want to forget the enjoyable games we've had under Mr Hodgson and just concentrate on the not so then that's up to them but they mustn't keep on and on about the games where we didn't beat Chelsea fifteen nil.

I'm hoping Saturday was a one off after a largely improved start to the season. Last season Roy kept us up comfortably with an average squad. I do think Eze and Bats will improve us and once Cahill, PvA and Tomkins get back to fitness we will also be more solid at the back (PvA is a key part of our attacking threat which Mitchell has not yet been able to replicate).

I do think we should have taken more risks at Chelsea as they clearly lacked confidence until their first goal went in, but there you go. Personally I want to see Riedewald in the middle as I genuinely think he would significantly improve our midfield. Preseason he was the best player on the pitch and was really unlucky to pick up an injury just before the season kicked off. He looks far more assured on the ball than 12 months ago and has the build to compete physically. McArthur and McCarthy are like two little terriers, but their passing is not anywhere near the same standard as Jairo's and they often give the ball away too easily. I think it has to be one or the other.

Up top Ayew has struggled to replicate last season's form and I think Bats should be given a chance to try and win a starting place. Ayew and Wilf are perhaps too similar in that they are basically converted wingers.

90% of the time Chelsea are going to beat us however well we play, so I'm not going to overreact, but I just hope with Eze and Bats Roy finds a way to bring some entertainment back into our game as it was sorely missing last season.

It was down to Plan A (the only plan) and that was to get a 0-0 draw - and we got our come-uppance.

Whereas against Man Utd we went out to win, and with a little but of luck, we did.

Sure, Chelsea are a better team than United but that was no excuse for playing like we did and, please, don't blame the oppositions 'rough tactics' - we were simply tactically and effectively terrible.

There is hope - that Fulham, Burnley, Sheff Utd continue their own abysmal starts.

But considering the topsy-turvy results so far then absolutely nothing can be taken for granted.

Our next two games should be very enlightening ....