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 baldeagle73  Leamington spa 06 Sep 17 12.59pm |
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At least the guy speaks his mind alot of people are against abortion and should be allowed to voice their opinions if they wish
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Kermit8  Hevon 06 Sep 17 1.06pm |
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Originally posted by baldeagle73
At least the guy speaks his mind alot of people are against abortion and should be allowed to voice their opinions if they wish Yes but he is against ALL abortion. Only a very selfish and warped person would expect a 13 year old raped girl to go through to full term or a mum whose foetus has been diagnosed with severe physical and brain damage to do the same "life begins at conception" he says, and that that life is now "sacrosanct" no matter what. That is a religion talking not a rational human being.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Sep 17 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Impossible to be a fundamentalist Catholic and a democrat. He is beholden to the will of one person. The Pontiff's views would override the public's for our Jacob. You appear to be very selective in what you take from his comments. He expressly says he's a democrat who doesn't believe in forcing his views un-democratically. You just completely ignore him. You just hear what you want to hear.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Sep 17 1.15pm |
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I'm also against abolition. My views have shifted since I have become a father. However, this isn't down to any religious aspect. I also don't believe in forcing my views onto others as I don't believe the views of others should be forced onto me. These are personal things with many difficult and complex aspects to them. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2017 1.32pm)
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| Kermit8 Hevon 06 Sep 17 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You appear to be very selective in what you take from his comments. He expressly says he's a democrat who doesn't believe in forcing his views un-democratically. You just completely ignore him. You just hear what you want to hear.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 06 Sep 17 1.23pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm also against abolition. My views have shifted since I have become a father. However, this isn't down to any religious aspect. I also don't believe in forcing my views onto others as I don't believe the views of others shouldn't be forced onto me. These are personal things with many difficult and complex aspects to them. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2017 1.16pm) Me too but not all. The 22 week rule is way too high if that is still what it is now. I would have it down to 10 or thereabouts which sounds severe but having seen the scans not at all irrational.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Sep 17 1.31pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Na...I don't think that's fair...the nature of democracy is a different question. First past the post has its problems but it also has strengths. Proportional representation is more democratic but it also genuinely leads to nothing being done ever. Personally I view both systems as out of date but this is a whole different question for another thread.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Sep 17 1.35pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Me too but not all. The 22 week rule is way too high if that is still what it is now. I would have it down to 10 or thereabouts which sounds severe but having seen the scans not at all irrational. Yep I think we agree.....I don't want to see the scans, I think I'd feel a bit sick. Life is unfairness. No abolition for my children but I don't get to decide for others beyond the democratic remit.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 06 Sep 17 1.37pm |
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Think of your own children. Their precious lives could have been terminated while forming in the mothers womb. Leaving serious disease etc. for one moment, that is premeditated murder. Its worse when you think it is just for social convenience. Sick society we don't even know the start of it.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 06 Sep 17 2.29pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm also against abolition. My views have shifted since I have become a father. However, this isn't down to any religious aspect. I also don't believe in forcing my views onto others as I don't believe the views of others should be forced onto me. These are personal things with many difficult and complex aspects to them. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2017 1.32pm) Why bring slavery into this?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 06 Sep 17 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Me too but not all. The 22 week rule is way too high if that is still what it is now. I would have it down to 10 or thereabouts which sounds severe but having seen the scans not at all irrational. Is there any way of telling whether the fetus has left/liberal leanings?
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Slimey Toad  Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 06 Sep 17 2.41pm |
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He says life begins at conception, presumably because he believes that to be sacred. So rape is as sacred as any conception.
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