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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 May 14 12.45pm | |
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Seems the public are lefter than we think... So why the fack are many of them voting ukip? Come on Rupert tell us what ukip really want. It's not just about the eu.
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Stirlingsays 05 May 14 1.04pm | |
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Quote nickgusset at 05 May 2014 12.45pm
Seems the public are lefter than we think... So why the fack are many of them voting ukip? Come on Rupert tell us what ukip really want. It's not just about the eu.
Where I live in Wisbech when I go to the bank or GP it's like being in Eastern Europe...I've had a few blood tests recently...The waiting rooms are full of foreign babbling.....Put quite simply....I don't like it. If I want to be around foreigners I'll go aboard on holiday.
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rossboss29 Portsmouth 05 May 14 1.17pm | |
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Would say the media is trying to discourage people to vote for UKIP. Channel 4 the other day was testament to this. One of the questions asked was along the lines of do you think women should not wear trousers? ridiculous.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 May 14 1.24pm | |
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Quote nickgusset at 05 May 2014 12.45pm
Seems the public are lefter than we think... So why the fack are many of them voting ukip? Come on Rupert tell us what ukip really want. It's not just about the eu.
Where I live in Wisbech when I go to the bank or GP it's like being in Eastern Europe...I've had a few blood tests recently...The waiting rooms are full of foreign babbling.....Put quite simply....I don't like it. If I want to be around foreigners I'll go aboard on holiday.
Aside from the 'bloody foreigners' aspect to your argument, ukip will make things worse. Did you know they want to privatise the whole NHS?
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Stirlingsays 05 May 14 1.32pm | |
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Quote nickgusset at 05 May 2014 12.45pm
Seems the public are lefter than we think... So why the fack are many of them voting ukip? Come on Rupert tell us what ukip really want. It's not just about the eu.
Where I live in Wisbech when I go to the bank or GP it's like being in Eastern Europe...I've had a few blood tests recently...The waiting rooms are full of foreign babbling.....Put quite simply....I don't like it. If I want to be around foreigners I'll go aboard on holiday.
Aside from the 'bloody foreigners' aspect to your argument, ukip will make things worse. Did you know they want to privatise the whole NHS?
People vote Ukip because they have no other alternative. That's the fault of the main parties over decades....They deserve this.
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Kermit8 Hevon 05 May 14 1.40pm | |
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Quote nickgusset at 05 May 2014 12.45pm
Seems the public are lefter than we think... So why the fack are many of them voting ukip? Come on Rupert tell us what ukip really want. It's not just about the eu.
Where I live in Wisbech when I go to the bank or GP it's like being in Eastern Europe...I've had a few blood tests recently...The waiting rooms are full of foreign babbling.....Put quite simply....I don't like it. If I want to be around foreigners I'll go aboard on holiday.
Aside from the 'bloody foreigners' aspect to your argument, ukip will make things worse. Did you know they want to privatise the whole NHS?
People vote Ukip because they have no other alternative.
I think people use the 'no other alternative' as just a smokescreen to delude themselves that they are not really like that. If that were really true and with sincerity surely a spoilt ballot paper or a vote for a benign (Monster Raving..) candidate is the way to go?
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Stirlingsays 05 May 14 1.48pm | |
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No. People vote UKIP because they hold the same-ish views and want to. I think people use the 'no other alternative' as just a smokescreen or to delude themselves. If it were really true and with sincerity surely a spoilt ballot paper or a vote for a benign candidate is the way to go?
However, they don't all hold the same views about other things.....Any suggestion they did would be lay yet more insults onto the Labour voters who vote Ukip. Spoiling a ballot is a passive response. The problem with that is that it can be interpreted in many ways......Parties look for excuses for inaction and you could just put that down to voter disinterest in the EU rather than opposition to the type of institution it has become. You can only display active opposition to the EU we have by voting for a party that activity opposes it.
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Johnny Eagles berlin 05 May 14 1.50pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 05 May 2014 1.40pm
I think people use the 'no other alternative' as just a smokescreen to delude themselves that they are not really like that. If that were really true and with sincerity surely a spoilt ballot paper or a vote for a benign (Monster Raving..) candidate is the way to go?
So do you think protest votes are bollocks full stop, or only when applied to people who vote UKIP? And what do you mean by "same-ish views"? Supporting withdrawal from the EU? Or are you implying something more sinister? Personally, I think protest voting is ok. So is voting for single issue parties. And wanting to leave the EU does not make you a racist, it's only liberal bigots who assume it does. Edited by Johnny Eagles (05 May 2014 2.02pm)
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Kermit8 Hevon 05 May 14 1.55pm | |
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Quote nickgusset at 05 May 2014 12.45pm
Seems the public are lefter than we think... So why the fack are many of them voting ukip? Come on Rupert tell us what ukip really want. It's not just about the eu.
Where I live in Wisbech when I go to the bank or GP it's like being in Eastern Europe...I've had a few blood tests recently...The waiting rooms are full of foreign babbling.....Put quite simply....I don't like it. If I want to be around foreigners I'll go aboard on holiday.
Aside from the 'bloody foreigners' aspect to your argument, ukip will make things worse. Did you know they want to privatise the whole NHS?
People vote Ukip because they have no other alternative.
I think people use the 'no other alternative' as just a smokescreen to delude themselves that they are not really like that. If that were really true and with sincerity surely a spoilt ballot paper or a vote for a benign (Monster Raving..) candidate is the way to go?
Edited by Kermit8 (05 May 2014 1.48pm) So do you think protest votes are bollocks full stop, or only when applied to people who vote UKIP?
Conservative You vote for one of those because at the end of the day you have decided they are the party for you and the other three you have rejected. That's not a protest. That's a well thought out choice hoping to give extra power to certain politicians. A vote for the Monster Raving...well that is a proper protest. Rejection of all the major parties. Edited by Kermit8 (05 May 2014 1.59pm)
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Kermit8 Hevon 05 May 14 2.05pm | |
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No. People vote UKIP because they hold the same-ish views and want to. I think people use the 'no other alternative' as just a smokescreen or to delude themselves. If it were really true and with sincerity surely a spoilt ballot paper or a vote for a benign candidate is the way to go?
However, they don't all hold the same views about other things.....Any suggestion they did would be lay yet more insults onto the Labour voters who vote Ukip. Spoiling a ballot is a passive response. The problem with that is that it can be interpreted in many ways......Parties look for excuses for inaction and you could just put that down to voter disinterest in the EU rather than opposition to the type of institution it has become. You can only display active opposition to the EU we have by voting for a party that activity opposes it.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 May 14 2.09pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 05 May 2014 2.05pm
It's a thumbs-up vote for Nige. Lets see how many "Thumbs Up" he gets at the General Election next year when one is voting for a Government.
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Johnny Eagles berlin 05 May 14 2.11pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 05 May 2014 1.55pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 05 May 2014 1.50pm
Quote Kermit8 at 05 May 2014 1.40pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 05 May 2014 1.32pm
Quote nickgusset at 05 May 2014 1.24pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 05 May 2014 1.04pm
Quote nickgusset at 05 May 2014 12.45pm
Seems the public are lefter than we think... So why the fack are many of them voting ukip? Come on Rupert tell us what ukip really want. It's not just about the eu.
Where I live in Wisbech when I go to the bank or GP it's like being in Eastern Europe...I've had a few blood tests recently...The waiting rooms are full of foreign babbling.....Put quite simply....I don't like it. If I want to be around foreigners I'll go aboard on holiday.
Aside from the 'bloody foreigners' aspect to your argument, ukip will make things worse. Did you know they want to privatise the whole NHS?
People vote Ukip because they have no other alternative.
I think people use the 'no other alternative' as just a smokescreen to delude themselves that they are not really like that. If that were really true and with sincerity surely a spoilt ballot paper or a vote for a benign (Monster Raving..) candidate is the way to go?
Edited by Kermit8 (05 May 2014 1.48pm) So do you think protest votes are bollocks full stop, or only when applied to people who vote UKIP?
Conservative You vote for one of those because at the end of the day you have decided they are the party for you and the other three you have rejected. That's not a protest. That's a well thought out choice hoping to give extra power to certain politicians. A vote for the Monster Raving...well that is a proper protest. Rejection of all the major parties. Edited by Kermit8 (05 May 2014 1.59pm) That seems completely arbitrary to me. Why is UKIP not a protest but, say, Green or Monster Loony is? UKIP is not a "major" party. Based on its size, support and media coverage, it is a fringe party. Until very recently it was a tiny, single issue party. I support it on that single issue (I would support Britain leaving the EU). I refuse to vote for the other three, mainly because I think they are all run by an elite political class who govern for themselves, not for the country. I would quite like to see the Tory party split after being beaten by Ukip. I neither want nor hope for a ukip majority. That makes me a protest ukip voter. Doesn't it?? Quite interested as to why you think that wouldn't be defined as a protest vote. I am extremely curious, given the above, what are these "same-ish" views I therefore - according to your deduction - must hold? Pray do tell. Edited by Johnny Eagles (05 May 2014 2.14pm)
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