I don't have a problem with weight control but I do with blood sugars as I eat the wrong food. Whilst I don't eat junk food I do like rice and pasta and have a couple of slices of toast for breakfast and some sort of sandwich for lunch.

I have a couple of keto recipe books and whilst the main food looks nice I add in potatoes or rice which ruins the whole thing

Yep, keeping the blood sugar under ten is a bugger. I manage it now because I'm not taking in enough but once I come off this thing I'll be back in that same boat.

As you know potatoes and rice are a no no blood sugar wise, but I sodding love a jacket potato and roasties.

Keto seems the main way to eat and keep those sugar levels down. But it means leaving carbs behind and like you a lifetime of eating normally makes that very hard.

Surely some bread will be ok, wholemeal....and I'm a martyr for mayo.

I'll have to figure something out when I come off this thing, but that's another couple of months away.

I know I have to do it though, once I started losing feeling in my feet it's kind of scary.

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Keto/Carnivore is our natural way we should be eating.

The issue is peoples mindset.

Bread is not OK. (you can make or get keto bread if you must have it)

If people have some lapses not a problem but this mindset do it for a few months etc is wrong no point even starting if that is the case.

Carbs are not required by humans.

Wholemeal/wholegrain etc makes no difference still carbs and wheat another thing we are not suppose to eat but % can tolerate it to a point still terrible for you it has no nutritional value unless you like to carb loading (Look at foods which have been fortified straight away these should be avoided)

Some one posted about fasting this is natural with everyone doing it on daily basis in a limited way mostly when you sleep.

Fasting is not suppose to raise insulin the issue here is I expect the person who posted this has read about it and a lot of the claimed studies are are not controlled correctly or these people are not eating low carb diets.

OMAD is more in line with how we are suppose to eat.

Every one benefits from low carb and fasting not only diabetics the people who do have health issues will notice it more if they stick with it and 3-6 months is how long it takes to adapt can be longer for some.

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I've given a few fasts a go at times where my diet has gone off the rails and I've needed to act.

It definitely has decent science behind it and been shown to improve numerous health metrics. A combination of a rest for the body along with the body behaving differently in times of perceived scarcity both apply. I tried the 5:2 diet, and once, a 3 day fast (ate nothing). I wouldn't recommend that as there's numerous reasons and situations where it could be a bad idea. It's amazing how normally you can function still though. Fasts can definitely jolt you into realising how crap your eating habits have become and makes you think about what you're eating.

A more doable approach would just be cutting down the window of time between when you first and last eat on any given day or having a few days a week where you eat markedly less. You're right that it's been shown to be effective for those with type 2, even rowing back a certain amount of damage. I don't have diabetes myself but there's a lot in my family so it's good to have measured in place to pre-emptively counter it.

Edited by MrWhyNot (11 Jan 2023 10.11am)

Yep, I think you're right about all of that.

When I come off intermittent it'll be difficult though....I love bread....I love roasties....feck, I love all the stuff I'm not meant to have.

Not eating that much means you can cheat a bit by having them....excluding much sugar....but once I come off it looks like Keto doesn't it.

Not sure I'm looking that forward to hardly any carbs....I'll try it but perhaps I'll just go back to omad and just eat enough to maintain.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

There is plenty of science around this

Michael Mosley would be a good place to start

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