Well said. I’m personally sick to death of hearing, “you should be grateful”, “remember what it used to be like”, “be careful what you wish for”, “we’ll be like Charlton if we expect too much”.

We are there, we are at the top table, forget about the past as the past is irrelevant, we need to push on. Our current target should be to become more like Leicester and less like Burnley. I want teams fearing us when they come to our ground, not attacking us for 90 minutes and using us for target practice.

We are that bad at the moment and haven't been all of the time that Mr Hodgson has been here, end of last season and this season has seen a huge decline in this regard and with the state of our squad as it is now this can not continue into the next season without new additions because we will go down if things continue and this will be with however is our manager.

I'd say he keeps a pretty low profile in relation to his position. As a premier league chairman he could be on telly all day every day if he wanted. Simon Jordan certainly would have been!

The kind of corporate ego trip I was referring to has less to do with personal profile anyway, and more to do with not getting carried away and bankrupting the club on a personal vanity quest, as has happened so often elsewhere.

So long as Parish keeps the club sustainable and soundly run, that's the main thing.

As someone who has supported the club for over 65 years I have a rather different perspective than some posters. So I agree with you. From where we were when it started for me to now is a hugely successful journey, which could so easily have ended completely a few short years ago. We are now in a phase where holding onto our place in the Premier League outweighs everything else. We have established a promising Academy, which can draw on a wide area of talent, which can feed through to the first team. We have plans to gradually modernise the stadium. These things take time. Right now the football can be painful to watch but the prize is worth the pain. The biggest challenge seems to me to be in this position in 12 months time. If we can do that then the next 10 years could be really exciting.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Your valid point relies on the building of the new stand, otherwise, what’s different? A new player and wage strategy could be less short term.

Because the new stand has been so slow, people doubt whether it will ever happen. There isn’t much update on it because Parish and Sainsbury’s can’t agree a price and it might go to a CPO Compulsory Purchase Order, and the fans aren’t party to what this vision is. The problem also is that the Americans don’t seem too interested. I’m more on the side of ‘where there’s a will there’s a way’ and anybody serious wouldn’t let a few car parking spaces get in the way of a new stand that’s got to be in the region of £100 million. So how about someone else? Well one of the conditions of the sale of the club appears to be that Parish won’t relinquish control, which kills the interest off at its early stages.

Aside from the football and the academy, the business aims of staying in the prem for me were to build a new stand and/or attract new buyers and owners that can move the club forward. I am struggling to see any of that getting closer. I am waiting to see what is done with regards to transfers or management staff this summer. Maybe that will give some clue, or not. But we had Americans buy in to build a new stand that really is key to moving the club forward, yet haven’t. If they wait long enough then we will be relegated, and then it won’t be worthwhile doing, to them. But then saving us from relegation by loans seems to be of interest to them and protecting their investment so who knows? Do they want to sell us as a prem club with or without a new stand that Parish probably won’t agree, or what?

COYP

The distinction needs to be made between ‘successful’ and ‘enjoyable’.

To me as a fan, enjoyment trumps success - none of us started following Palace because they were a hugely successful club, and so while it’s obviously nice to win games and play in the top flight, it’s not the be all and end all for me. Equally, when I hear fans talking about infrastructure and budgets.. I get it all ties in, but surely no one is happy watching this s***e for 12m so we can turn round and say our press box is improved? Completely accept that will be the board’s priority and they might view it as more important than entertainment, but as a fan I don’t get how you square that off.

Completely accept there are fans who have different priorities, and are happy to endure this for the hopeful progress to follow, but for me the complete lack of enjoyment around Palace games over the last year is not a price worth paying.