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davenotamonkey 15 Dec 20 10.08am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Men, men and more men. You have seen all the photo's from the refugee centres, the refugee boats.....its a massive crowd of men. The BBC or similar will visit the Jungle at Calais and televise an interview with a 'strong independent single mother'' and what does she represent ? 0.001% of the residents at the camp ? Twas ever thus, observe any of the crowd photo's from the 1950's and the Windrush generation.....a boatload of young men. And before the usual suspects accuse me of racism, we get a similar scenario of white men travelling from places like Eastern Europe. Plumbers, electricians & the like. Many of these wire money back to the wife & kids in Budapest/Krakow wherever. OxfordReference.com defines prejudice as ''Any attitude held towards a person or group that is not justified by the facts.'' And so to say that a predominantly male group is demonstrably 'predominantly male' is less prejudiced-opinion and more empirical-fact. No doubt there are many fine upstanding young men therein. It does pose some questions : - where are all their women ? back in the home country ? in a polygamous marriage or all single ? - how will the fabric of society in Western Europe be if there are 110 young men for every 100 young women ? - who voted for this arrangement ? - are all these arriving fellas the remnants of a polygamy problem back in their home country ? or have they left a wife & kids behind ? - are there villages back in the home country that have lost all their men ? - has sociology proven a predominantly male society to also be a violent society ? From the American Wild West of the Goldrush to A modern squaddie town in the UK. Is London 2020 more violent than London 1920 ? - The grooming gangs in the North of England, where were their wives, sisters, female cousins when all the mayhem was happening ? - When the Goths, Visigoths & Huns landed on Rome...they brought their women with them. What would the Western Romans make of modern Western Europe ? - 1946 Russia was a society of women, certainly any place near Stalingrad. How would that society compare to society in Sweden Today ? - other Please keep the discussion respectful with a potentially emotive topic. The main theme here is Gender Equality or the lack thereof. [Link] Edited by PalazioVecchio (14 Dec 2020 11.14pm) Freedom of movement has been a disaster, and will always be a disaster for as long as there are higher wages and better standards of living in other countries. Fascinating that the EU bangs on about "level playing fields", yet permits huge labour-wage distortions across it's empire. Here's the flip-side: the emptying out of poorer Eastern states (because they can), and the subsequent decline in community and society: [Link] "Romanians have not just left the country to work as laborers. Highly skilled people have also emigrated for better jobs, particularly doctors. The number of Romanian physicians working abroad exceeded 14,000 as of 2013, representing a third of the country’s total number of doctors" 1/3 of the doctors. People will follow the money, where permitted. Slow clap EU.
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Men, men and more men.

You have seen all the photo's from the refugee centres, the refugee boats.....its a massive crowd of men.

The BBC or similar will visit the Jungle at Calais and televise an interview with a 'strong independent single mother'' and what does she represent ? 0.001% of the residents at the camp ?

Twas ever thus, observe any of the crowd photo's from the 1950's and the Windrush generation.....a boatload of young men.

And before the usual suspects accuse me of racism, we get a similar scenario of white men travelling from places like Eastern Europe. Plumbers, electricians & the like. Many of these wire money back to the wife & kids in Budapest/Krakow wherever.

OxfordReference.com defines prejudice as ''Any attitude held towards a person or group that is not justified by the facts.'' And so to say that a predominantly male group is demonstrably 'predominantly male' is less prejudiced-opinion and more empirical-fact. No doubt there are many fine upstanding young men therein.

It does pose some questions :

- where are all their women ? back in the home country ? in a polygamous marriage or all single ?

- how will the fabric of society in Western Europe be if there are 110 young men for every 100 young women ?

- who voted for this arrangement ?

- are all these arriving fellas the remnants of a polygamy problem back in their home country ? or have they left a wife & kids behind ?

- are there villages back in the home country that have lost all their men ?

- has sociology proven a predominantly male society to also be a violent society ? From the American Wild West of the Goldrush to A modern squaddie town in the UK. Is London 2020 more violent than London 1920 ?

- The grooming gangs in the North of England, where were their wives, sisters, female cousins when all the mayhem was happening ?

- When the Goths, Visigoths & Huns landed on Rome...they brought their women with them. What would the Western Romans make of modern Western Europe ?

- 1946 Russia was a society of women, certainly any place near Stalingrad. How would that society compare to society in Sweden Today ?

- other

Please keep the discussion respectful with a potentially emotive topic. The main theme here is Gender Equality or the lack thereof.

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (14 Dec 2020 11.14pm)

Freedom of movement has been a disaster, and will always be a disaster for as long as there are higher wages and better standards of living in other countries. Fascinating that the EU bangs on about "level playing fields", yet permits huge labour-wage distortions across it's empire.

Here's the flip-side: the emptying out of poorer Eastern states (because they can), and the subsequent decline in community and society:

[Link]

"Romanians have not just left the country to work as laborers. Highly skilled people have also emigrated for better jobs, particularly doctors. The number of Romanian physicians working abroad exceeded 14,000 as of 2013, representing a third of the country’s total number of doctors"

1/3 of the doctors. People will follow the money, where permitted. Slow clap EU.

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 15 Dec 20 6.48pm
It is overwhelmingly men who emigrate here & the evidence is quite clear when you have a population weighted in men with no career prospects, no chance of having families & creating the next generation it is a recipe for disaster. Were already seeing this in Germany where there is a war being fought between rival gangs of men imported by Merkel The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Ouzo Dan

Behind you 15 Dec 20 6.48pm

It is overwhelmingly men who emigrate here & the evidence is quite clear when you have a population weighted in men with no career prospects, no chance of having families & creating the next generation it is a recipe for disaster.
Were already seeing this in Germany where there is a war being fought between rival gangs of men imported by Merkel

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 16 Dec 20 8.49pm
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan It is overwhelmingly men who emigrate here. The evidence is quite clear when you have a population weighted in men. with no career prospects, no chance of having families & creating the next generation it is a recipe for disaster. Were already seeing this in Germany where there is a war being fought between rival gangs of men imported by Merkel its funny how the newspapers & telly never report that story ? Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

It is overwhelmingly men who emigrate here. The evidence is quite clear when you have a population weighted in men.

with no career prospects, no chance of having families & creating the next generation it is a recipe for disaster.

Were already seeing this in Germany where there is a war being fought between rival gangs of men imported by Merkel

its funny how the newspapers & telly never report that story ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 17 Dec 20 7.00pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio its funny how the newspapers & telly never report that story ? Actually a correction on my part its happening in France and is being fought by Chechen's & Algerians, were not just talking street fights, they're fully armed militants. Edited by Ouzo Dan (17 Dec 2020 7.07pm) The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Ouzo Dan

Behind you 17 Dec 20 7.00pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

its funny how the newspapers & telly never report that story ?

Actually a correction on my part its happening in France and is being fought by Chechen's & Algerians, were not just talking street fights, they're fully armed militants.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (17 Dec 2020 7.07pm)

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 28 Dec 20 6.53pm
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan It is overwhelmingly men who emigrate here . & the evidence is quite clear when you have a population weighted in men with no career prospects Here is the opinion of an intelligent & beautiful Dutch woman [Link] Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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PalazioVecchio

south pole 28 Dec 20 6.53pm

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

It is overwhelmingly men who emigrate here
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& the evidence is quite clear when you have a population weighted in men with no career prospects

Here is the opinion of an intelligent & beautiful Dutch woman

[Link]

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 28 Dec 20 8.37pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Here is the opinion of an intelligent & beautiful Dutch woman [Link] Couldn’t understand a word she said, was all Dutch to me. Would though "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 28 Dec 20 8.37pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Here is the opinion of an intelligent & beautiful Dutch woman

[Link]

Couldn’t understand a word she said, was all Dutch to me.

Would though

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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silvertop Portishead 30 Dec 20 6.09pm
The world is largely patriarchal where women marry young and then barely leave the house so the demographic is hardly surprising. Also this wiring all the money home may be true but given most work is paye not until the government has got its cut
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silvertop

Portishead 30 Dec 20 6.09pm

The world is largely patriarchal where women marry young and then barely leave the house so the demographic is hardly surprising.

Also this wiring all the money home may be true but given most work is paye not until the government has got its cut

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PalazioVecchio south pole 06 Feb 21 11.27am
A community with an excess of men is always violent. Look at the Wild West of America in the 1840's. It started with men arriving in ships, and soon men were leaving in coffins. The real solution to the problem : - a society with a gender-balance False solutions to the problem: - getting tougher on crime - handing out freebies to poor people - Religion & preaching about 'morality' - compulsory military service - education courses - Sport - Yoof clubs & snooker There are many societies, across the World, with great poverty and yet a relative dearth of violence. Edited by PalazioVecchio (07 May 2021 10.16pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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PalazioVecchio

south pole 06 Feb 21 11.27am

A community with an excess of men is always violent.

Look at the Wild West of America in the 1840's.

It started with men arriving in ships, and soon men were leaving in coffins.

The real solution to the problem :

- a society with a gender-balance

False solutions to the problem:

- getting tougher on crime
- handing out freebies to poor people

- Religion & preaching about 'morality'
- compulsory military service

- education courses
- Sport

- Yoof clubs & snooker

There are many societies, across the World, with great poverty and yet a relative dearth of violence.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (07 May 2021 10.16pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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PalazioVecchio south pole 07 May 21 12.17pm
well, it looks like the men of Hartlepool have all come out to Vote ! ....a journey of a thousand miles starts with one step. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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PalazioVecchio

south pole 07 May 21 12.17pm

well, it looks like the men of Hartlepool have all come out to Vote !

....a journey of a thousand miles starts with one step.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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DANGERCLOSE London 07 May 21 12.22pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio well, it looks like the men of Hartlepool have all come out to Vote ! ....a journey of a thousand miles starts with one step. Agreed
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