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EddieMac 14 Nov 20 10.59am | |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
I may be in the minority here, but last week, we beat Leeds 4-1, it was on the telly for me and I was just not interested, I was farting about around the house listening as it happened and yeah, I was happy we won but it didn't move me, I wasn't impacted by it all. Maybe the fact fans aren't there or the fact the league seems shallow, corrupt with PPV and the possible breakaway league.. or the fact that the style of play hs put me off or the lack or characters.. I'm not sure, but I just feel it's pointless right now.. I want fans back in the ground, I want a few more players that connect with fans and excite us.. it just feels... too commercially constructed.. it doesn't feel like the palace I grew up with. I hear what your saying but it has nothing to do with Palace, it is sport in general. Sport needs live fans.
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Pierre Purley 14 Nov 20 11.54am | |
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Originally posted by EddieMac
I hear what your saying but it has nothing to do with Palace, it is sport in general. Sport needs live fans. Absolutely right. The money men/women can come up with whatever they like in terms contracts/schemes and ways of making money out of any live sports at the moment. Without having live audiences for sportsmen/women athletes to perform in front of it is through no fault of the aforementioned that they are all totally bereft of any real atmosphere and home ground favouritism. As for the cost of PPV the Premier League, TV companies and football clubs should hang their collective heads in shame- selling to fans who have already paid for Sky and BT & Amazon subscriptions & football club season tickets paying £14.95 a game then having to wait until the end of November for it to be resolved and only by fans pressure just like the cost of away match tickets!
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TheBigToePunt 14 Nov 20 12.30pm | |
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Modern football is a series of unpleasant reminders of something that's always been true: however much we might love the game, we don't own it. We know it. They know it. They know we know it. That's why we get such thrilling developments as... Ticket prices increasing in gross disproportion to average income levels. Its one thing to ask me to pay for the post-Taylor report redevelopment of neglected grounds, but to subsidise three quarters of the players in the Premier league earning more in a week than I do in a year? Cap ticket prices at £20 and £10 for kids, and let the players struggle along on twenty or thirty grand a week. Kick off times whenever they f***ing like. There is literally not a time too unfair,just so they can have football on TV every minute of every day. I love football but who exactly asked for it to be on TV this much? The professional acceptance of diving. Just because there's contact doesn't mean they aren't throwing themselves to the floor, and I don't need a former England captain on match of the day telling me Kane/Son/Zaha/Salah/whoever had 'The right to go down there'. f*** off Shearer. I want to watch a sporting contest between committed strong athletes. If I wanted to watch people pretend they were hurt I'd sit through WWF wrestling. If you want to see top flight footballers play like men these days then you have to watch a women's game. Political posturing. The Premier league and its broadcast partners throw themselves blindly behind blm, but have literally f*** all to say when corrupt human rights abusing states use football clubs to sportswash their reputation. The Manchester City manager wears a yellow ribbon to support Catalan politicians imprisoned in Spain and not one of the weasels asks him how exactly he thinks his paymasters run their country. Then a state who frequently torture and kill their own (when they're not too busy funding islamist terrorism) wants to buy Newcastle and they only fail the fit and proper persons test because they host knock-off streams of Premier league games. Yeah I think I'll get my moral guidance elsewhere thanks. VAR. Honest to christ, why is this OK?
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BlueJay UK 14 Nov 20 12.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
I may be in the minority here, but last week, we beat Leeds 4-1, it was on the telly for me and I was just not interested, I was farting about around the house listening as it happened and yeah, I was happy we won but it didn't move me, I wasn't impacted by it all. Maybe the fact fans aren't there or the fact the league seems shallow, corrupt with PPV and the possible breakaway league.. or the fact that the style of play hs put me off or the lack or characters.. I'm not sure, but I just feel it's pointless right now.. I want fans back in the ground, I want a few more players that connect with fans and excite us.. it just feels... too commercially constructed.. it doesn't feel like the palace I grew up with. It's just the strange times we're in mate. Things will get back to how they were and we'll appreciate it all the more..
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doi209 Fighting for the weak and innocent... 14 Nov 20 2.26pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
indeed and I remember turning up along with 51,000 others on that famous night against Burnley, bought my ticket and got in (despite the fact our official capacity was only 47,000). Yep - I remember that too. I turned up with my girlfriend of 7 weeks. Must have been good as I proposed 3 weeks later.
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doi209 Fighting for the weak and innocent... 14 Nov 20 2.28pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Modern football is a series of unpleasant reminders of something that's always been true: however much we might love the game, we don't own it. We know it. They know it. They know we know it. That's why we get such thrilling developments as... Ticket prices increasing in gross disproportion to average income levels. Its one thing to ask me to pay for the post-Taylor report redevelopment of neglected grounds, but to subsidise three quarters of the players in the Premier league earning more in a week than I do in a year? Cap ticket prices at £20 and £10 for kids, and let the players struggle along on twenty or thirty grand a week. Kick off times whenever they f***ing like. There is literally not a time too unfair,just so they can have football on TV every minute of every day. I love football but who exactly asked for it to be on TV this much? The professional acceptance of diving. Just because there's contact doesn't mean they aren't throwing themselves to the floor, and I don't need a former England captain on match of the day telling me Kane/Son/Zaha/Salah/whoever had 'The right to go down there'. f*** off Shearer. I want to watch a sporting contest between committed strong athletes. If I wanted to watch people pretend they were hurt I'd sit through WWF wrestling. If you want to see top flight footballers play like men these days then you have to watch a women's game. Political posturing. The Premier league and its broadcast partners throw themselves blindly behind blm, but have literally f*** all to say when corrupt human rights abusing states use football clubs to sportswash their reputation. The Manchester City manager wears a yellow ribbon to support Catalan politicians imprisoned in Spain and not one of the weasels asks him how exactly he thinks his paymasters run their country. Then a state who frequently torture and kill their own (when they're not too busy funding islamist terrorism) wants to buy Newcastle and they only fail the fit and proper persons test because they host knock-off streams of Premier league games. Yeah I think I'll get my moral guidance elsewhere thanks. VAR. Honest to christ, why is this OK?
Couldn't agree more
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JRW2 Dulwich 14 Nov 20 2.30pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Well, nobody. But the TV companies had an idea that people might be willing to pay for live televised matches so they provided it (the "product"!) and have been proved right. If people weren't willing to pay for live TV football, it wouldn't exist. I don't have it - not for any principled reason, but simply because I'm only interested in seeing one team and I can't be bothered. The thought of watching matches and inane, pontificating experts four days a week depresses me.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 20 2.32pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
Probably too enthusiastic on the jungle juice.
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Spiderman Horsham 14 Nov 20 2.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
It terms of football, gone are the days of rosettes and rattles and standing on rain-lashed terraces watching teams playing on mud baths. Or buying the Evening Standard Classified on the way home
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 20 3.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Or buying the Evening Standard Classified on the way home Oh yes ! I remember this well.There was often a queue in the newsagents waiting for the van to arrive. Edited by Willo (14 Nov 2020 3.59pm)
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adelaar Edgware 14 Nov 20 4.12pm | |
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Originally posted by doi209
Yep - I remember that too. I turned up with my girlfriend of 7 weeks. Must have been good as I proposed 3 weeks later.
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Eaglehamster Storrington 14 Nov 20 4.23pm | |
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A different world back in the day. No segregation of fans. You even applauded your opponent's goals (even though you didn't mean it). Banter in the pub afterwards. A successful Div 1 player may have put enough by to start his own business (usually a pub) when he retired from the game. I feel no such nostalgia for the hooligan era. There's still an element of this but a small minority hopefully. I don't miss the sh1tty pitches either. Only one thing remains the same: the national team's under-achievement. (OK 66-70 was the exception).
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