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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Sep 17 8.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Totally agree Jim. Going to the moon was great as is satellite technology but beyond that what's the bloody point plus it is very expensive. We aren't going to escape to another planet when we finally finish fvcking this one up. That's it. Game over. Spend the dosh on the bettering lives on earth. Give some to Parish for January. Are you serious? The future of the human race might depend on space technology and we will be in a technology race with other countries, like it or not. I suspect we have space technology far in advance of what is known. We went from a horse and cart to The Moon in 60 years and then very little advance for the next 40? We might have moon bases already and files hacked by Gary McKinnon from the Pentagon suggested that we have 'off world personnel'.
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serial thriller The Promised Land 27 Sep 17 8.16pm | |
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I'm not usually one to make appeals to our innate humanity, but for space exploration I make a notable exception. The earliest question a child asks is 'why?'. The earliest, and most common theme in literature from all civilisations is the concept of home, and our continuing search for it. Space, and astronomy, have married these two questions together and produced knowledge which humbles and fascinates. We once thought that home was a flat plain under heavenly skies. We now know that our planet is one of 9, in a solar system which is one of a hundred billion in a galaxy which itself is one of a potentially infinite number of others. Our inquisitiveness has lead us to understanding that we are all star matter, produced 4 billion years ago when rocks collided to form earth. Our civilisation, just 10000 years in to discovering agriculture, will die out in a galactic blink of an eye, but by far the most significant relics any future society's will find of us is our understanding of the stars. Questions which revolve around what use space has to us are ridiculous. What space has taught us, ultimately, is that all of our wars, kings, gods and cares are so inconsequential in comparison to the size, beauty and infinity of space. Trump can claim to be the most powerful man in existence, but one look through a telescope shows us how insignificant his power is. Now for my political point For all their faults, the Soviet Union did more for our appreciation and exploration of space than any other civilisation. I think their ideology of total humanism, of trying to expand the potential of human capabilities allowed its astronomists - who of course should be distinguished from its political leaders - the intellectual and material basis for seriously probing the cosmos. America, for all their celebration of reaching the moon first, drastically cut finances for NASA once the Cold War was over. For me, space exploration should be the ultimate goal of our civilisation, something to unite around once automation has rid us of the need to work and abolished the need for economic inequality. Space has the capacity to humble us all, that for me is more than enough of a point. Edited by serial thriller (27 Sep 2017 8.18pm)
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YT Oxford 27 Sep 17 8.17pm | |
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This is one of my pet 'soap box' subjects. I don't know if space exploration is pointless, but in my opinion it's rubbish - I mean in terms of man himself going into space. Facts. Edited by YT (27 Sep 2017 8.18pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Sep 17 8.25pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
This is one of my pet 'soap box' subjects. I don't know if space exploration is pointless, but in my opinion it's rubbish - I mean in terms of man himself going into space. Facts. Edited by YT (27 Sep 2017 8.18pm) I certainly agree that our ambitions seem to be way out of line with what has been achieved.
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Ray in Houston Houston 27 Sep 17 8.27pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
This is one of my pet 'soap box' subjects. I don't know if space exploration is pointless, but in my opinion it's rubbish - I mean in terms of man himself going into space. Facts.
For example, the Chinese claim to have built the "impossible" space drive: a fuel-less system that would allow for infinite travel and - more importantly - stopping once you get where you're going, turning around and coming all the way back. Mars, for example, is much, much closer if you can accelerate all the way there and then hammer the brakes once you reach it - avoiding all those complicated gravity slingshots and the like as dramatised in "The Martian". If we decide, "nah, never going to happen" well, it's never going to happen. But, like Mark Watney, you solve one problem and then the next and then the next...until you get to where you want to go and get to come back again (if you want).
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wordup 27 Sep 17 8.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Are you serious? The future of the human race might depend on space technology and we will be in a technology race with other countries, like it or not. I suspect we have space technology far in advance of what is known. We went from a horse and cart to The Moon in 60 years and then very little advance for the next 40? We might have moon bases already and files hacked by Gary McKinnon from the Pentagon suggested that we have 'off world personnel'. Hrolf is right. We'd be foolish to remain on this little speck of dirt and not try to spread our wings to live out our full potential. It could ultimately mean the difference between our survival and demise.
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Ray in Houston Houston 27 Sep 17 9.13pm | |
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Originally posted by wordup
Hrolf is right. We'd be foolish to remain on this little speck of dirt and not try to spread our wings to live out our full potential. It could ultimately mean the difference between our survival and demise. The Sun is going to explode. If we're still here, we're toast. Literally.
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martin2412 Living The Dream 27 Sep 17 9.14pm | |
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Isn't the next space exploration mission being funded by Arsenal, so that they can bring back some atmosphere ?
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chateauferret 27 Sep 17 9.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I certainly agree that our ambitions seem to be way out of line with what has been achieved. Mods, please move to Palace Talk.
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martin2412 Living The Dream 27 Sep 17 9.17pm | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Mods, please move to Palace Talk. Dops cap
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Ray in Houston Houston 27 Sep 17 9.17pm | |
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Originally posted by martin2412
Isn't the next space exploration mission being funded by Arsenal, so that they can bring back some atmosphere? Not quite, they're still looking for Courtois' penalty.
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.TUX. 27 Sep 17 9.23pm | |
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Pointless. Those proposing life for humanity beyond this blue dot should look closer to home first.
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