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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 05 Jul 16 9.33am

Anyone that knows a good teacher knows they are massively overworked, average hors 60+ a week. Most work during school holidays too.

Tories have seen doctors, firefighters, teachers strike. Rail system is f'cked! Yet many wanted us to stay in this EU playground. Time to start waking up, win our public services and country back.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jul 16 9.52am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Anyone that knows a good teacher knows they are massively overworked, average hors 60+ a week. Most work during school holidays too.

Tories have seen doctors, firefighters, teachers strike. Rail system is f'cked! Yet many wanted us to stay in this EU playground. Time to start waking up, win our public services and country back.

I know the pressures on teachers - my wife was a secondary school teacher for 35 years.

My daughter went into the profession as a secondary school teacher but left after a couple of years to take up an educational role outside the classroom in a London office. She is returning to teaching in September !

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jul 16 9.56am

Originally posted by Casual

Nick. Is that all the schools. Mine are at Darrick wood infants. I haven't heard anything from my Mrs , although she don't hear much about my job either.
Good day for Chessington I guess.

Not all schools. Just NUT members. Some schools are partially closed,some not.

 

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 05 Jul 16 10.13am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Some teachers are very good, work very hard and do lots of extra curricular activity (not a euphemism)

Some aren't particularly good, do the minimum and can't even be arsed to check the automated reports for he/she spelling etc.

Just because they chose a vocation it doesn't automatically entitle them to sainthood.


 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Jul 16 10.14am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

5. What's the problem with academies and free schools?
Academies and free schools are businesses. That means their primary concern is money. The government is paving the way for them to become profit-making businesses. Already many academies double up as wedding venues, conference facilities etc. No harm in generating revenue eh? Well only if it's being ploughed back into the school and The children. Let's remember schools are about children aren't they? It seems not. Many academies including Harris academies have recently got in trouble for deliberately excluding 'problem children' and paying local authority schools to take them off their hands - because they wreck the data. How can you publish your excellent GCSE results if some stubborn children just won't make progress! The answer in some academies is to get rid of them - then you don't have to report their results.
So if the money isn't spent on the kids where does it go?

I've heard about how Harris Academies have improved the performance and behaviour of pupils. The former Haling Manor on Pampisford Road a good example. A problem school. Now we know why, well partly why.

How many warning do Harris give? How and why are all the pupils still there still behaving? Is it because they know they have to go to Lanfranc and possibly chuck the opportunity away that pupils who go to Lanfranc or the old Haling Manor didn't have?

Is it because the teachers actually have measures in discipline they can practice whereas before they tried to and the child just walked out of the office claiming their independence and to repeat the next day or day after.

Just putting it out there. Teachers had little discipline. Sounds like these academy teachers have a bit to protect the children there to cooperate. Nice flash school. Decent grades, decent future. Stop f***ing about or go to the school built on an old refuse site with class disruptions every 5 minutes if you're lucky.

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 05 Jul 16 10.14am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Anyone that knows a good teacher knows they are massively overworked, average hors 60+ a week. Most work during school holidays too.

Tories have seen doctors, firefighters, teachers strike. Rail system is f'cked! Yet many wanted us to stay in this EU playground. Time to start waking up, win our public services and country back.


You're contradicting yourself and FFS just because people may disagree with you it doesn't mean they are asleep

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 05 Jul 16 10.38am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

So far my two kids must have had 10 form teachers between them and I haven't had any concerns yet. Not an inkling of a problem.

As for the rest of their teachers 95% of them seem to be doing a very good job whilst a tiny few aren't.

A lot better than when I was going to school and a supposedly good one at that.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Jul 16 10.43am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Keep up Iain. I've been back working for a few weeks now...

How many pupils in your class, Nick? 30 or 35?

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 05 Jul 16 10.45am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

One of my team has twins, 12 people in the year, 55 in the school. Bloody overcrowding

 


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JohnyBoy Flag 05 Jul 16 10.58am Send a Private Message to JohnyBoy Add JohnyBoy as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Teachers all over the country will be wiothdrawing their labour on 5th July.

March tomorrow at 11am from Portland Place.
I will be there defending the UK education system.

Here's some reasons why:

1. It's not really about pay.
As a profession I think we are well paid. That is why we have good quality professionals working hard to teach children, inspire them and look after them. But this is about to change.

2. The white paper
The governments latest white paper proposes DEREGULATION of teachers pay and conditions. Currently all local authority employed teachers in England are paid according to the same contract. Like nurses and doctors, teachers have automatic pay progression (so the longer you serve the more you get - an incentive to stay in the profession), pay portability (if we move schools we get the same basic pay - they can't pay us less - this stops a competition between schools for teachers based on money - without it richer schools will always poach good staff from poorer schools) .

3. What is performance-related pay?
The introduction of performance related pay will mean that teachers get paid according to exam results. As a parent I would never want a teacher to look at my child and think 'is he going to wreck my data and stop my pay rise?' We are not working in sales - it is hugely problematic to pay us based on exam results.

4. Why should non-teachers care about teachers pay and conditions?
Deregulation also means that our working hours, holidays, pay, sick pay and maternity pay will be individually decided by the employer - the academy that is. An Academy in Manchester has in its contract that maternity pay will be 'subject to affordability'. Who will become a teacher if the terms and conditions are unattractive? A mum said to me yesterday 'but in my job I don't get good maternity pay - why should I care about teachers?'. My answer is this: public sector pay and conditions set the bar for private sector pay and conditions. If we get screwed you will get screwed too.

5. What's the problem with academies and free schools?
Academies and free schools are businesses. That means their primary concern is money. The government is paving the way for them to become profit-making businesses. Already many academies double up as wedding venues, conference facilities etc. No harm in generating revenue eh? Well only if it's being ploughed back into the school and The children. Let's remember schools are about children aren't they? It seems not. Many academies including Harris academies have recently got in trouble for deliberately excluding 'problem children' and paying local authority schools to take them off their hands - because they wreck the data. How can you publish your excellent GCSE results if some stubborn children just won't make progress! The answer in some academies is to get rid of them - then you don't have to report their results.
So if the money isn't spent on the kids where does it go?


Do a Google search on haberdashers free school account fraud. He ran off with £4million! How did he manage to do that? Answer - because he was only accountable to the board of governors and the head teacher. Local authority schools are overseen by a democratically elected local council. Academies don't have to bother with that level of accountability. And the government also wants to get rid of parent governors. This would mean that academies would only be accountable to themselves. We're talking about millions of pounds of public money. Already there have been many documented cases of fraud in academies and free schools.

6. Qualified teachers V unqualified teachers
Academies and free schools don't have to employ qualified teachers. Unqualified teachers are cheaper of course. But I know which one I want teaching my children.

Interesting insight Nick, and although i am one of the affected parents, am supportive of this strike. Its never going to be an easy decision because kids are affected but if you dont make a stand, it seems the quality of our schools & teaching will decline. Seeing as the tories have just decimated our economy, our constitution, our prosperity and our life chances please dont let them mess up the education system as well

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jul 16 11.00am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Interesting insight Nick, and although i am one of the affected parents, am supportive of this strike. Its never going to be an easy decision because kids are affected but if you dont make a stand, it seems the quality of our schools & teaching will decline. Seeing as the tories have just decimated our economy, our constitution, our prosperity and our life chances please dont let them mess up the education system as well

Total and utter hogwash.Typical Anti-Tory rhetoric.

Let's not get into the wider debate as I shall only get on my "Soapbox".

Regards education spending this year has been the highest at £40Bill, an increase of some £4Bill since 2012.

Strike called by NUT when only some 25% actually voted.

Anyhow I am off out now.Probably bump into a load of children affected by the strike.

Edited by Willo (05 Jul 2016 11.07am)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jul 16 11.10am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

How many pupils in your class, Nick? 30 or 35?

I do one to one tutoring with kids not in mainstream now. Lot of travelling between houses but rewarding.

 

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