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Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 16 6.22pm
We have managed to get twelve posts in without being reminded about white pedophile rings and someone calling somebody else a racist. What has gone wrong with the internet? This is the downside of multi culture. Let's not forget that there is a price to pay for ideological perfection and cheap labour. When you invite in the worthy, the scum are usually following close behind.
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20 Jun 16 6.22pm

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We have managed to get twelve posts in without being reminded about white pedophile rings and someone calling somebody else a racist.

What has gone wrong with the internet?

This is the downside of multi culture. Let's not forget that there is a price to pay for ideological perfection and cheap labour.

When you invite in the worthy, the scum are usually following close behind.

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becky over the moon 20 Jun 16 6.36pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger We have managed to get twelve posts in without being reminded about white pedophile rings and someone calling somebody else a racist. What has gone wrong with the internet? This is the downside of multi culture. Let's not forget that there is a price to pay for ideological perfection and cheap labour. When you invite in the worthy, the scum are usually following close behind. Sadly, this is not the scum. These are men who believe that any woman who is not covered up in public, kept indoors as much as possible, and never let out without a male escort is fair game and deserves everything that she gets as she is worse than a prostitute and her feelings count for nothing, because basically all women count for nothing in their male dominated society. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 20 Jun 16 6.36pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

We have managed to get twelve posts in without being reminded about white pedophile rings and someone calling somebody else a racist.

What has gone wrong with the internet?

This is the downside of multi culture. Let's not forget that there is a price to pay for ideological perfection and cheap labour.

When you invite in the worthy, the scum are usually following close behind.

Sadly, this is not the scum. These are men who believe that any woman who is not covered up in public, kept indoors as much as possible, and never let out without a male escort is fair game and deserves everything that she gets as she is worse than a prostitute and her feelings count for nothing, because basically all women count for nothing in their male dominated society.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 16 7.52pm
Originally posted by becky Sadly, this is not the scum. These are men who believe that any woman who is not covered up in public, kept indoors as much as possible, and never let out without a male escort is fair game and deserves everything that she gets as she is worse than a prostitute and her feelings count for nothing, because basically all women count for nothing in their male dominated society. Sadly, that attitude is quite common in the world. Now it is coming here. The liberals must have a real headache.
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20 Jun 16 7.52pm

Originally posted by becky

Sadly, that attitude is quite common in the world. Now it is coming here.

The liberals must have a real headache.

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elgrande bedford 21 Jun 16 8.53am
Words fail me on this, its another town/city and another Asian peadophle ring of abusers. But its not a common .....is it always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 21 Jun 16 8.53am

Words fail me on this, its another town/city and another Asian peadophle ring of abusers.
But its not a common .....is it

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Jun 16 9.46am
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Explain why the EU judges have overruled deportations then? If we divorce ourselves from the EU federal state we are then free to amend any Act that prevents us deporting Rapists, Murderers etc.... even Laws "Enshrined" like the Human Rights Act. As I said........ VOTE LEAVE. Actually, it wouldn't make a difference, the European Court has served as the UKs highest court of appeal since just after the second world war, and pre-dates the EU. Its a right, as such its universal to all citizens, including the families of the convicted, who aren't guilty of crimes. As such, there is a questionable issue of ethics in further punishing the relatives of a criminal for their crimes. Notably if they're UK citizens (if they're not, then the issue of deportation isn't really an issue). Its not actually their rights to a family, but their families rights that are protected. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 21 Jun 16 9.46am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Explain why the EU judges have overruled deportations then?

If we divorce ourselves from the EU federal state we are then free to amend any Act that prevents us deporting Rapists, Murderers etc.... even Laws "Enshrined" like the Human Rights Act.

As I said........ VOTE LEAVE.

Actually, it wouldn't make a difference, the European Court has served as the UKs highest court of appeal since just after the second world war, and pre-dates the EU.

Its a right, as such its universal to all citizens, including the families of the convicted, who aren't guilty of crimes. As such, there is a questionable issue of ethics in further punishing the relatives of a criminal for their crimes. Notably if they're UK citizens (if they're not, then the issue of deportation isn't really an issue).

Its not actually their rights to a family, but their families rights that are protected.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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collier row eagle romford essex via another galaxy 21 Jun 16 9.54am
Originally posted by Qwijibo Dirty f*ing Asian Paedophile c*s. Exactly dirty scum, I hope they get very badly hurt in prison, come on boys, you know what to do!!
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Originally posted by Qwijibo

Dirty f***ing Asian Paedophile c***s.

Exactly dirty scum, I hope they get very badly hurt in prison, come on boys, you know what to do!!

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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jun 16 11.17am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Actually, it wouldn't make a difference, the European Court has served as the UKs highest court of appeal since just after the second world war, and pre-dates the EU. Its a right, as such its universal to all citizens, including the families of the convicted, who aren't guilty of crimes. As such, there is a questionable issue of ethics in further punishing the relatives of a criminal for their crimes. Notably if they're UK citizens (if they're not, then the issue of deportation isn't really an issue). Its not actually their rights to a family, but their families rights that are protected. You are right of course. Do you think that leaving the EU might lead to a later move to unshackle ourselves from the European Court? Our inability to punish or deport, where appropriate, criminals as we please seems to be a source of frustration for many.
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21 Jun 16 11.17am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Actually, it wouldn't make a difference, the European Court has served as the UKs highest court of appeal since just after the second world war, and pre-dates the EU.

Its not actually their rights to a family, but their families rights that are protected.

You are right of course.

Do you think that leaving the EU might lead to a later move to unshackle ourselves from the European Court?

Our inability to punish or deport, where appropriate, criminals as we please seems to be a source of frustration for many.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Jun 16 12.47pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You are right of course. Do you think that leaving the EU might lead to a later move to unshackle ourselves from the European Court? Our inability to punish or deport, where appropriate, criminals as we please seems to be a source of frustration for many. I think that would undermine Justice, in favour of retribution and political exploitation of crime for popularity. The idea of having a system of rights and an independent arbitrator over matters of state and citizens rights, is better served by the European court. The idea of a nation, just being able to punish or deport, as they see fit, irrespective of their own laws, is a dangerous concept for any society. I think the frustration is valid, but that the presentation in media of why 'the state cannot just do as it sees fit' is poorly placed. A government that is not bound by law, other than its own, is a dangerous prospect, not just for criminals, but for anyone in future who's behaviour it determines as criminal. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 21 Jun 16 12.47pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are right of course.

Do you think that leaving the EU might lead to a later move to unshackle ourselves from the European Court?

Our inability to punish or deport, where appropriate, criminals as we please seems to be a source of frustration for many.

I think that would undermine Justice, in favour of retribution and political exploitation of crime for popularity. The idea of having a system of rights and an independent arbitrator over matters of state and citizens rights, is better served by the European court.

The idea of a nation, just being able to punish or deport, as they see fit, irrespective of their own laws, is a dangerous concept for any society. I think the frustration is valid, but that the presentation in media of why 'the state cannot just do as it sees fit' is poorly placed.

A government that is not bound by law, other than its own, is a dangerous prospect, not just for criminals, but for anyone in future who's behaviour it determines as criminal.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jun 16 12.56pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think that would undermine Justice, in favour of retribution and political exploitation of crime for popularity. The idea of having a system of rights and an independent arbitrator over matters of state and citizens rights, is better served by the European court. The idea of a nation, just being able to punish or deport, as they see fit, irrespective of their own laws, is a dangerous concept for any society. I think the frustration is valid, but that the presentation in media of why 'the state cannot just do as it sees fit' is poorly placed. A government that is not bound by law, other than its own, is a dangerous prospect, not just for criminals, but for anyone in future who's behaviour it determines as criminal. I am forced to agree. Maybe the problem lies in the wisdom of some of the previous judgments.
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Hrolf The Ganger

21 Jun 16 12.56pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

A government that is not bound by law, other than its own, is a dangerous prospect, not just for criminals, but for anyone in future who's behaviour it determines as criminal.

I am forced to agree.

Maybe the problem lies in the wisdom of some of the previous judgments.

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Hoof Hearted 21 Jun 16 12.58pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think that would undermine Justice, in favour of retribution and political exploitation of crime for popularity. The idea of having a system of rights and an independent arbitrator over matters of state and citizens rights, is better served by the European court. The idea of a nation, just being able to punish or deport, as they see fit, irrespective of their own laws, is a dangerous concept for any society. I think the frustration is valid, but that the presentation in media of why 'the state cannot just do as it sees fit' is poorly placed. A government that is not bound by law, other than its own, is a dangerous prospect, not just for criminals, but for anyone in future who's behaviour it determines as criminal. Explain to me why it is a dangerous concept for us to want to deport rapists/murderers? Compare and contrast with eg Iran/Saudi where it is legal to chop off thieves hands, throw gay people off a cliff, behead blasphemers etc? I'm confused.........
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Hoof Hearted 21 Jun 16 12.58pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

A government that is not bound by law, other than its own, is a dangerous prospect, not just for criminals, but for anyone in future who's behaviour it determines as criminal.

Explain to me why it is a dangerous concept for us to want to deport rapists/murderers?

Compare and contrast with eg Iran/Saudi where it is legal to chop off thieves hands, throw gay people off a cliff, behead blasphemers etc?

I'm confused.........

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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jun 16 1.08pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Explain to me why it is a dangerous concept for us to want to deport rapists/murderers? Compare and contrast with eg Iran/Saudi where it is legal to chop off thieves hands, throw gay people off a cliff, behead blasphemers etc? I'm confused......... I think the problem is that any change in the way law is judged applies to everyone. A government in the future could use it's absolute power through the judiciary for reasons other than justice.
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Hrolf The Ganger

21 Jun 16 1.08pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Explain to me why it is a dangerous concept for us to want to deport rapists/murderers?

Compare and contrast with eg Iran/Saudi where it is legal to chop off thieves hands, throw gay people off a cliff, behead blasphemers etc?

I'm confused.........

I think the problem is that any change in the way law is judged applies to everyone. A government in the future could use it's absolute power through the judiciary for reasons other than justice.

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 21 Jun 16 1.36pm
Originally posted by Qwijibo Dirty f*ing Asian Paedophile c*s. couldn't have put it better myself, the fourth one up from the bottom looks like Amir Khan after a Crystal Meth binge. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 21 Jun 16 1.36pm

Originally posted by Qwijibo

Dirty f***ing Asian Paedophile c***s.

couldn't have put it better myself, the fourth one up from the bottom looks like Amir Khan after a Crystal Meth binge.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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