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 npn  Crowborough 04 May 16 9.53am |
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Political parties in "dodgy as f**k" shocker. In other news, Catholic priests and 70s BBC presenters may have a tendency to be a little bit rapey around children. Seriously, I'm a little disappointed in myself for thinking "meh" but I don't believe party politics could do anything in this country to lower my opinion of all involved any further than it already is.
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| Sportyteacher London 04 May 16 10.25am |
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Originally posted by npn
Political parties in "dodgy as f**k" shocker. In other news, Catholic priests and 70s BBC presenters may have a tendency to be a little bit rapey around children. Seriously, I'm a little disappointed in myself for thinking "meh" but I don't believe party politics could do anything in this country to lower my opinion of all involved any further than it already is. I can so easily see where you're coming from however if political skulduggery of the worst kind is not tackled then the problem festers forever more and then what hope for future generations? That's not a future that I want for my child to have to grow up in.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 May 16 11.03am |
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Originally posted by npn
Political parties in "dodgy as f**k" shocker. In other news, Catholic priests and 70s BBC presenters may have a tendency to be a little bit rapey around children. Seriously, I'm a little disappointed in myself for thinking "meh" but I don't believe party politics could do anything in this country to lower my opinion of all involved any further than it already is. The more we hold them accountable, the harder they have to try to be dodgy. I think we can all agree that most politicians seem to be the kind of people who'd sell out their grandmother rather than take the blame for something they're responsible for. But that's because the electorate keep dismissing things like 'election fraud' as administrative errors etc. When the expenses scandal hit, we were far to lenient with those who hadn't committed a criminal offence, but had basically taken the p*ss. Any other job, they'd have been sacked without reference. They're crooked twisted, because we let them be. Sending a token few of the worst offenders to prison wasn't enough, they were just scapegoats, destined for early release anyhow. There should have been whole scale sackings.
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| matt_himself Matataland 04 May 16 11.06am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Ah the old 'administrative error' and 'non-story'. There is plenty of room in the media for two political stories. Firstly, administrative error is incompetence in the legal financial reporting officer for a sitting government party - that's a story, not an excuse. When it comes to auditable legal requirements, there is no 'administrative error' there are just failures to report. Second point, election fraud in a democracy is a major issue. It undermines the very foundation of our society and politics. The failure of parties to take it seriously, to me, demonstrates that they're all at it. Give secrets away, your a traitor, but violate political laws regarding voting, and its a minor offence. Anyone caught in election frauds is, to my mind, committing an act of treason in a democratic country; one which has far more serious consequences than any other crime in office. Its perfectly ok to slam more than one party in the press. Politicians must be held accountable to the public for their failures. Its the very life blood of democracy. Whether its racism, anti-Semitism, incompetence or fraud - its all important. I repeat, it it is such a big story and flagrant disregard for rules, why aren't the other parties raising it as a serious issue? Maybe, it's because the party supposedly most effected was UKIP.
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Pussay Patrol  04 May 16 5.09pm |
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I'm amazed they needed a penny to defeat Ed Millibland, he did all the work for them with his Ed-Stone ! Maybe that's the problem? The left wing opposition are so weak the Tories don't bother spending the campaign money and just went down the pub instead Same will happen to Corbyn, who will get trounced at the next election if he's still there
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 05 May 16 8.50am |
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 05 May 16 9.52am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I repeat, it it is such a big story and flagrant disregard for rules, why aren't the other parties raising it as a serious issue? Maybe, it's because the party supposedly most effected was UKIP. Because its not a very interesting story yet, and I believe that no political party wants to make capital out of something that would almost certainly end up being applicable to them. None of them want another expenses scandal. And the public aren't really all that interested in very dry stories that revolve around accounting practices and legislation.
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| Hoof Hearted 05 May 16 10.19am | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
[Tweet Link]The Returning Officer and Council for Barnet are going to be getting some serious grief! This sort of thing is happening more and more frequently... I'll bet some part or all of the process has been farmed out to a private company like Capita, rather than being done by council employees who are now spread too thin on the ground to even attempt this task probably (or do their regular jobs properly).
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| DanH SW2 05 May 16 10.20am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
The Returning Officer and Council for Barnet are going to be getting some serious grief! This sort of thing is happening more and more frequently... I'll bet some part or all of the process has been farmed out to a private company like Capita, rather than being done by council employees who are now spread too thin on the ground to even attempt this task probably (or do their regular jobs properly). This is exactly what's happened apparently.
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| Hoof Hearted 05 May 16 10.26am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
This is exactly what's happened apparently. I frigging knew it Dan!
Councils never learn!
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 05 May 16 11.08am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
The Returning Officer and Council for Barnet are going to be getting some serious grief! This sort of thing is happening more and more frequently... I'll bet some part or all of the process has been farmed out to a private company like Capita, rather than being done by council employees who are now spread too thin on the ground to even attempt this task probably (or do their regular jobs properly). It's hard enough getting people to bother to vote, now people who want to vote are being turned away. It's not like they weren't given any notice.
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| fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 05 May 16 12.31pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Seems that in about 24 constituencies Tories did not declare all campaign expenses during the last General Election, which amounts to fraud. I wonder why this isn't bigger news...Channel 4 have covered it. Don't tell me, the whiter than white Labour party are in the clear over this are they?
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