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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 03 May 16 1.11pm
Originally posted by We are goin up! The SNP campaigned for independence on the basis that they wanted self governance and democracy for their country. Not even a hint of contradiction is there This is my point exactly. They want to leave but just to spite England and Wales they'll vote to be a part of the EU! That means that they won't have any independence! Just to spite England! And it's also motivated by raging nationalistic sentiment! They're pathetic! Their slogan should be 'We're independent now......BUT KEEP SENDING THE MONEY!!!'
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 03 May 16 1.11pm

Originally posted by We are goin up!

The SNP campaigned for independence on the basis that they wanted self governance and democracy for their country.

Not even a hint of contradiction is there

This is my point exactly. They want to leave but just to spite England and Wales they'll vote to be a part of the EU! That means that they won't have any independence! Just to spite England! And it's also motivated by raging nationalistic sentiment! They're pathetic!

Their slogan should be 'We're independent now......BUT KEEP SENDING THE MONEY!!!'

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matt_himself Matataland 03 May 16 1.28pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think its their choice. Ultimately they voted to stay in the UK, and the UK Nationalists were very happy to retain the union. It would seem a bit odd to then be concerned that they're exercising their legal rights to stay in the EU. Its the right of each person in the UK to vote, however they feel, and we kind of have to abide by that decision. I don't think a stay vote will stop people who want an exit, anymore than the stay vote would stop the SNP on their participation in the Union - It'll probably mean that it won't be revisited for some time. It would be odd and he reasons are that the two issues are separate. Scotland voted to stay in the UK. Now the UK votes on whether to stay in EU. The nationalists said it was a once in a generation event and hey should respect that. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 03 May 16 1.28pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think its their choice. Ultimately they voted to stay in the UK, and the UK Nationalists were very happy to retain the union. It would seem a bit odd to then be concerned that they're exercising their legal rights to stay in the EU.

Its the right of each person in the UK to vote, however they feel, and we kind of have to abide by that decision.

I don't think a stay vote will stop people who want an exit, anymore than the stay vote would stop the SNP on their participation in the Union - It'll probably mean that it won't be revisited for some time.

It would be odd and he reasons are that the two issues are separate. Scotland voted to stay in the UK. Now the UK votes on whether to stay in EU. The nationalists said it was a once in a generation event and hey should respect that.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 03 May 16 1.50pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch I think that the gap will be bigger come voting day. I may be wrong but In my opinion The fear of the Unknown will mean that people vote to stay. Right - most people don't like change and will vote on the basis of better the devil you know. Surprised if the OUT vote will get more than 40% of the pole.
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Banstead Surrey 03 May 16 1.50pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I think that the gap will be bigger come voting day.

I may be wrong but In my opinion The fear of the Unknown will mean that people vote to stay.

Right - most people don't like change and will vote on the basis of better the devil you know. Surprised if the OUT vote will get more than 40% of the pole.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 03 May 16 3.21pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch I think that the gap will be bigger come voting day. I may be wrong but In my opinion The fear of the Unknown will mean that people vote to stay. Sadly, I don't think it'll make any difference as the vote will be rigged in favour of remaining anyway. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 03 May 16 3.21pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I think that the gap will be bigger come voting day.

I may be wrong but In my opinion The fear of the Unknown will mean that people vote to stay.

Sadly, I don't think it'll make any difference as the vote will be rigged in favour of remaining anyway.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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elgrande bedford 03 May 16 5.49pm
I totally agree with cucking on this,I fear it will be rigged in some way or another. Either postal wise or the ballot papers will be worded in a way to confuse the older generation,( I include myself in that). Cameron would have to go if he lost the vote. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 03 May 16 5.49pm

I totally agree with cucking on this,I fear it will be rigged in some way or another.
Either postal wise or the ballot papers will be worded in a way to confuse the older generation,( I include myself in that).
Cameron would have to go if he lost the vote.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 04 May 16 9.02am
It definitely will be rigged, you can guarantee it. We're supposed to live in a democracy, but we don't.
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 04 May 16 9.02am

It definitely will be rigged, you can guarantee it. We're supposed to live in a democracy, but we don't.

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 04 May 16 9.21am
Originally posted by Kermit8 er..we are the UK. They can have a say the Scots. They are allowed. You are an affront to democracy, Fed Up Eagle. Go and live in North Korea where you belong. Edited by Kermit8 (02 May 2016 9.23pm) Oh dear someone's been on the tramp fuel again. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 04 May 16 9.21am

Originally posted by Kermit8

er..we are the UK. They can have a say the Scots. They are allowed. You are an affront to democracy, Fed Up Eagle. Go and live in North Korea where you belong.

Edited by Kermit8 (02 May 2016 9.23pm)

Oh dear someone's been on the tramp fuel again.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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npn Crowborough 04 May 16 9.26am
Given that an 'out' vote would almost certainly trigger another Scotland referendum, should England have to stay in because of Scottish votes (I still think it's unlikely to be that close), could we demand a "chuck Scotland out" referendum?
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Crowborough 04 May 16 9.26am

Given that an 'out' vote would almost certainly trigger another Scotland referendum, should England have to stay in because of Scottish votes (I still think it's unlikely to be that close), could we demand a "chuck Scotland out" referendum?

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Kermit8 Hevon 04 May 16 9.28am
Originally posted by fed up eagle It definitely will be rigged, you can guarantee it. We're supposed to live in a democracy, but we don't. Preparing the made-up excuses for a majority 'in' vote already? That's a bit defeatist. I do get the impression you lot are becoming 'resigned' though. Maybe, just maybe, for workers rights, for the ex-pats, for the economy, for trade, for those that like to travel, for the less likelihood of conflict, etc.....we are possibly better off...you know...remaining? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 04 May 16 9.28am

Originally posted by fed up eagle

It definitely will be rigged, you can guarantee it. We're supposed to live in a democracy, but we don't.

Preparing the made-up excuses for a majority 'in' vote already? That's a bit defeatist.

I do get the impression you lot are becoming 'resigned' though.

Maybe, just maybe, for workers rights, for the ex-pats, for the economy, for trade, for those that like to travel, for the less likelihood of conflict, etc.....we are possibly better off...you know...remaining?

Big chest and massive boobs

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Kermit8 Hevon 04 May 16 9.31am
Originally posted by dannyh Oh dear someone's been on the tramp fuel again. Not my fault no one has invented the tongue in cheek smilie yet. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 04 May 16 9.31am

Originally posted by dannyh

Oh dear someone's been on the tramp fuel again.

Not my fault no one has invented the tongue in cheek smilie yet.

Big chest and massive boobs

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johnfirewall 04 May 16 9.35am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Preparing the made-up excuses for a majority 'in' vote already? That's a bit defeatist. I do get the impression you lot are becoming 'resigned' though. Maybe, just maybe, for workers rights, for the ex-pats, for the economy, for trade, for those that like to travel, for the less likelihood of conflict, etc.....we are possibly better off...you know...remaining? Ex-pats are generally south London criminals retiring to the Costas, and the economy is never of interest to the left unless it's the Tories fault for damaging it. I still can't get to the bottom of which genuine factor these arguments are being used to bolster. I'm pretty sure that to some the EU represents the closest thing we'll ever have to communism and that the contradictory cheap labour element suddenly becomes a desirable thing.
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04 May 16 9.35am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Preparing the made-up excuses for a majority 'in' vote already? That's a bit defeatist.

I do get the impression you lot are becoming 'resigned' though.

Ex-pats are generally south London criminals retiring to the Costas, and the economy is never of interest to the left unless it's the Tories fault for damaging it.

I still can't get to the bottom of which genuine factor these arguments are being used to bolster.

I'm pretty sure that to some the EU represents the closest thing we'll ever have to communism and that the contradictory cheap labour element suddenly becomes a desirable thing.

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Hoof Hearted 04 May 16 9.35am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Preparing the made-up excuses for a majority 'in' vote already? That's a bit defeatist. I do get the impression you lot are becoming 'resigned' though. Maybe, just maybe, for workers rights, for the ex-pats, for the economy, for trade, for those that like to travel, for the less likelihood of conflict, etc.....we are possibly better off...you know...remaining? The polls still show it as close with many undecided. I think you are creaming your pants prematurely Michael. The leave camp haven't really started playing dirty yet either. EDIT: Daily Mirror latest poll results......... [Link] Not as clear cut as you thought is it? Edited by Hoof Hearted (04 May 2016 9.39am)
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Hoof Hearted 04 May 16 9.35am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Preparing the made-up excuses for a majority 'in' vote already? That's a bit defeatist.

I do get the impression you lot are becoming 'resigned' though.

The polls still show it as close with many undecided.

I think you are creaming your pants prematurely Michael.

The leave camp haven't really started playing dirty yet either.

EDIT: Daily Mirror latest poll results.........

[Link]

Not as clear cut as you thought is it?

Edited by Hoof Hearted (04 May 2016 9.39am)

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