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Stuk Flag Top half 09 Dec 15 2.32pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote mezzer at 09 Dec 2015 2.22pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 09 Dec 2015 11.05am

Falling rapidly.

Petrol could be £1 a litre by Xmas.

Is this a good thing?

On the face of it yes - we all benefit from lower running costs and haulage firms generate greater profits.

What about the wider picture and global economy?

Lowering oil prices come about as a result of China's economic slowdown - they reduce useage of steel and other basic consumables which has a knock on effect on other economies and markets.

Many of you on here will have pension funds invested in the stock market and you will be taking a big hit as share prices drop and income from them reduced or curtailed.

Oil companies are making many people redundant too.

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Falling Oil prices hit emerging economies too like Brazil, Nigeria so anyone invested in those countries will see losses too.

So, on the face of it Oil prices falling are a good thing, but when you drill down (pun intended LOL ) maybe it's not that good really!

Only India seems to be bucking the trend, but eco warriors are trying to get them to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels to drive their economy upwards which they are ignoring at the moment.

Edited by Hoof Hearted (09 Dec 2015 11.29am)

Unforeseen consequences abound in all this Hoof.

Imagine this scenario....consistently low oil price leads to the bankruptcy of Petrobras, Brazil's biggest company by far. This brings down the Brazilian banking system which. in itself isn't too worrying, but Santander's earnings come 75% from Latin America, even though it's Spain's biggest bank. So the contagion has crossed to Europe. But who is the bulk of Santander's 3rd party derivative trading with? JP Morgan in the US. And so from an apparently insignificant Brazilian oil company going under we have Global Financial Crisis II.

Fact or fiction?

Just a festive thought.


and Williams F1 loses a sponsor.

 


Optimistic as ever

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Tyke Exile Flag Portuguese Cove, Nova Scotia 09 Dec 15 2.41pm Send a Private Message to Tyke Exile Add Tyke Exile as a friend

*****Smug Mode***** (why is there no smug Smilie?)

It's 99.4 cents a litre here (that's 49p to you!).

 


Why worry about TODAY when TOMORROW will be even worse.

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mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 09 Dec 15 2.47pm Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Quote Tyke Exile at 09 Dec 2015 2.41pm

*****Smug Mode***** (why is there no smug Smilie?)

It's 99.4 cents a litre here (that's 49p to you!).


Just met loads of Canadians in Cuba. They all reckon the commodity-dependent Canadian economy is going down the pan.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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johnfirewall Flag 09 Dec 15 9.15pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Are you sure it's not free now we've invaded all those middle-eastern countries for it?

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 10 Dec 15 3.28pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Quote Hoof Hearted at 09 Dec 2015 11.05am

Falling rapidly.

Petrol could be £1 a litre by Xmas.

Is this a good thing?

On the face of it yes - we all benefit from lower running costs and haulage firms generate greater profits.

What about the wider picture and global economy?

Lowering oil prices come about as a result of China's economic slowdown - they reduce useage of steel and other basic consumables which has a knock on effect on other economies and markets.

Many of you on here will have pension funds invested in the stock market and you will be taking a big hit as share prices drop and income from them reduced or curtailed.

Oil companies are making many people redundant too.

[Link]

Falling Oil prices hit emerging economies too like Brazil, Nigeria so anyone invested in those countries will see losses too.

So, on the face of it Oil prices falling are a good thing, but when you drill down (pun intended LOL ) maybe it's not that good really!

Only India seems to be bucking the trend, but eco warriors are trying to get them to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels to drive their economy upwards which they are ignoring at the moment.

Edited by Hoof Hearted (09 Dec 2015 11.29am)


It actually started to come down head of the lighteningly quick expansion of fracking in the USA as OPEC see it as a direct threat to their future power base. They flooded the market with oil driving the price down making it uneconomical for other Frackers to enter the market and OPEC have said they have enough reserves to do so for another couple of years.

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 10 Dec 15 3.31pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Quote npn at 09 Dec 2015 2.18pm

Scottish independence anyone?


I bought that very point up during the referendum...they seriously dodged a bullet there. Can you imagine the wailing and tears if it had beena yes vote!

 


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rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 10 Dec 15 3.47pm Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

Quote Lyons550 at 10 Dec 2015 3.31pm

Quote npn at 09 Dec 2015 2.18pm

Scottish independence Ianyone?


I bought that very point up during the referendum...they seriously dodged a bullet there. Can you imagine the wailing and tears if it had beena yes vote!

No doubt - one way or another - we (remaining UK) would have bailed them out at great cost. If only to avoid mass immigration from their 'failed state!'

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 10 Dec 15 5.10pm

Quote mezzer at 09 Dec 2015 2.47pm

Quote Tyke Exile at 09 Dec 2015 2.41pm

*****Smug Mode***** (why is there no smug Smilie?)

It's 99.4 cents a litre here (that's 49p to you!).


Just met loads of Canadians in Cuba. They all reckon the commodity-dependent Canadian economy is going down the pan.

Yep, commodity prices have been tanking all year, Australia is also in the brown stuff. All the mining, gas and oil industries are racking up losses and companies going to the wall, mainly cos it's gone tits in China

 


Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Hoof Hearted 11 Dec 15 11.15am

Quote Pussay Patrol at 09 Dec 2015 11.25am

Wow £1 a gallon ! crikey That is some fall !

Even £1 a litre would be a big drop


Morrisons selling it today for 99p a litre!

The other big Supermarkets will follow.

 

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dannyb1 Flag Chichester 11 Dec 15 12.54pm Send a Private Message to dannyb1 Add dannyb1 as a friend

What is the current price of diesel around croydon at the moment as I'm coming down for the match tomorrow and it's usually 3-4p cheaper then here (current best £1.07p on the way or £1.08p local)

 

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Hoof Hearted 11 Dec 15 12.56pm

Quote dannyb1 at 11 Dec 2015 12.54pm

What is the current price of diesel around croydon at the moment as I'm coming down for the match tomorrow and it's usually 3-4p cheaper then here (current best £1.07p on the way or £1.08p local)


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paperhat Flag croydon 11 Dec 15 1.39pm Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Quote rob1969 at 10 Dec 2015 3.47pm

Quote Lyons550 at 10 Dec 2015 3.31pm

Quote npn at 09 Dec 2015 2.18pm

Scottish independence Ianyone?


I bought that very point up during the referendum...they seriously dodged a bullet there. Can you imagine the wailing and tears if it had beena yes vote!

No doubt - one way or another - we (remaining UK) would have bailed them out at great cost. If only to avoid mass immigration from their 'failed state!'

whoa! whoa! - Fundamentalist Muslims I can deal with, poverty stricken sweaties? no thanks


 


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