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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Oct 15 8.44pm
Lots of right-wingers already coming out on this thread. About time. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 11 Oct 15 8.44pm

Lots of right-wingers already coming out on this thread.

About time.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 11 Oct 15 8.53pm
Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 8.44pm Lots of right-wingers already coming out on this thread. About time. Lots of left-wingers already avoiding answering the question "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 11 Oct 15 8.53pm

Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 8.44pm

Lots of right-wingers already coming out on this thread.

About time.

Lots of left-wingers already avoiding answering the question

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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farms Thailand / England 11 Oct 15 8.57pm
Out from me , UKIP in power to change the views of the younger people , who have been brain washed by Europe .
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farms

Thailand / England 11 Oct 15 8.57pm

Out from me , UKIP in power to change the views of the younger people , who have been brain washed by Europe .

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Oct 15 8.59pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 11 Oct 2015 8.53pm Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 8.44pm Lots of right-wingers already coming out on this thread. About time. Lots of left-wingers already avoiding answering the question I like to take my time and not go all premature then wished I hadn't rushed. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 11 Oct 15 8.59pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 11 Oct 2015 8.53pm

Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 8.44pm

Lots of right-wingers already coming out on this thread.

About time.

Lots of left-wingers already avoiding answering the question

I like to take my time and not go all premature then wished I hadn't rushed.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 11 Oct 15 9.02pm
Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 8.59pm Quote Tom-the-eagle at 11 Oct 2015 8.53pm Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 8.44pm Lots of right-wingers already coming out on this thread. About time. Lots of left-wingers already avoiding answering the question I like to take my time and not go all premature then wished I hadn't rushed. Guess when you spend as much time in front of a computer as you, you can take as long as you wish "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 11 Oct 15 9.02pm

Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 8.59pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 11 Oct 2015 8.53pm

Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 8.44pm

Lots of right-wingers already coming out on this thread.

About time.

Lots of left-wingers already avoiding answering the question

I like to take my time and not go all premature then wished I hadn't rushed.

Guess when you spend as much time in front of a computer as you, you can take as long as you wish

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Catfish Burgess Hill 11 Oct 15 9.12pm
Like many people I am in a quandary where a large part of me says lets get out. It is made more difficult by the fact that there are people whose views I respect on both sides of the debate. Essentially, it is rather like the Scottish referendum were you have to decide whether to take a leap into the unknown or stick within the familiar system that you don't like and try to change it. Q. Will we better off? No one knows Q. Will we regain control of our borders? Probably not, if we want to continue trading with the EU they will impose conditions and free movement is likely to be one of them. If we insist on border controls British residents in Europe will suffer. Q. Will we still be able to trade within Europe? They will want to rub our noses in it before agreeing terms. We cannot automatically expect the same terms as other non-members. Q. Will we continue to kowtow to new EU regulations? If we want to continue trading? Yes. Q. Will we have a say in those new regulations? No Q. Will foreign companies based here pull out? Don't know. Q. Will we get back control of our fisheries? Maybe, but it will part of a deal and probably nothing will change. Q. Will we be able to repeal the Human Rights Act? We could, but it would likely be replaced by something else very similar. Q. Could we rejoin if it all went horribly wrong? Can you imagine the conditions they would impose if they had us by the short and curlies. Q. Could we just trade with someone else? We would have to, but if that is the case then there is nothing to stop us trading with them now. Q. The EU would continue making new laws, would we have any say in them? No. Unpopular and unromantic view, but I think I prefer the known to the unknown. Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial
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Burgess Hill 11 Oct 15 9.12pm

Like many people I am in a quandary where a large part of me says lets get out. It is made more difficult by the fact that there are people whose views I respect on both sides of the debate.

Essentially, it is rather like the Scottish referendum were you have to decide whether to take a leap into the unknown or stick within the familiar system that you don't like and try to change it.

Q. Will we better off? No one knows
Q. Will we regain control of our borders? Probably not, if we want to continue trading with the EU they will impose conditions and free movement is likely to be one of them. If we insist on border controls British residents in Europe will suffer.
Q. Will we still be able to trade within Europe? They will want to rub our noses in it before agreeing terms. We cannot automatically expect the same terms as other non-members.
Q. Will we continue to kowtow to new EU regulations? If we want to continue trading? Yes.
Q. Will we have a say in those new regulations? No
Q. Will foreign companies based here pull out? Don't know.
Q. Will we get back control of our fisheries? Maybe, but it will part of a deal and probably nothing will change.
Q. Will we be able to repeal the Human Rights Act? We could, but it would likely be replaced by something else very similar.
Q. Could we rejoin if it all went horribly wrong? Can you imagine the conditions they would impose if they had us by the short and curlies.
Q. Could we just trade with someone else? We would have to, but if that is the case then there is nothing to stop us trading with them now.
Q. The EU would continue making new laws, would we have any say in them? No.

Unpopular and unromantic view, but I think I prefer the known to the unknown.

Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Oct 15 9.44pm
Quote Catfish at 11 Oct 2015 9.12pm Like many people I am in a quandary where a large part of me says lets get out. It is made more difficult by the fact that there are people whose views I respect on both sides of the debate. Essentially, it is rather like the Scottish referendum were you have to decide whether to take a leap into the unknown or stick within the familiar system that you don't like and try to change it. Q. Will we better off? No one knows Q. Will we regain control of our borders? Probably not, if we want to continue trading with the EU they will impose conditions and free movement is likely to be one of them. If we insist on border controls British residents in Europe will suffer. Q. Will we still be able to trade within Europe? They will want to rub our noses in it before agreeing terms. We cannot automatically expect the same terms as other non-members. Q. Will we continue to kowtow to new EU regulations? If we want to continue trading? Yes. Q. Will we have a say in those new regulations? No Q. Will foreign companies based here pull out? Don't know. Q. Will we get back control of our fisheries? Maybe, but it will part of a deal and probably nothing will change. Q. Will we be able to repeal the Human Rights Act? We could, but it would likely be replaced by something else very similar. Q. Could we rejoin if it all went horribly wrong? Can you imagine the conditions they would impose if they had us by the short and curlies. Q. Could we just trade with someone else? We would have to, but if that is the case then there is nothing to stop us trading with them now. Q. The EU would continue making new laws, would we have any say in them? No. Unpopular and unromantic view, but I think I prefer the known to the unknown. I'm sure we'd survive. Iceland manage it and they have a population the size of Southampton. Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Oct 15 9.44pm

Quote Catfish at 11 Oct 2015 9.12pm

Like many people I am in a quandary where a large part of me says lets get out. It is made more difficult by the fact that there are people whose views I respect on both sides of the debate.

Essentially, it is rather like the Scottish referendum were you have to decide whether to take a leap into the unknown or stick within the familiar system that you don't like and try to change it.

Unpopular and unromantic view, but I think I prefer the known to the unknown.

I'm sure we'd survive. Iceland manage it and they have a population the size of Southampton.

Pro USA & Israel

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Stirlingsays 11 Oct 15 9.47pm
Quote oldcodger at 11 Oct 2015 6.27pm Quote Stirlingsays at 11 Oct 2015 5.55pm Quote oldcodger at 11 Oct 2015 5.20pm I would say that the IN vote is edging it, but I don't think you can gauge anything by the number of UKIP voters because many millions of people who want out of the EU didn't or wouldn't vote for them for a multitude of reasons. 'Millions of people'?.....How on earth would you know that? I was replying to Kermit's comment about how he didn't think the OUT campaign could win, partially based on the number of votes UKIP got. I said that's a bad measure as many millions of people in favour of leaving the UK won't have voted UKIP. I'm not exactly sure what part of this you disagree with. Edited by oldcodger (11 Oct 2015 6.31pm) Really? That's a bit like saying that those who voted Tory want to stay in the EU because they didn't vote Ukip. It's blindingly obvious that a large percentage of Tory voters are anti EU......They don't vote Ukip because they don't want to let Labour in and through party loyalty. If you add say....thirty percent of the Tory election vote (out of thirty eight) to Ukip's vote and a few percent from Labour's......I'd say that the projection is very interesting indeed. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Oct 2015 9.50pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Oct 15 9.47pm

Quote oldcodger at 11 Oct 2015 6.27pm

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Quote oldcodger at 11 Oct 2015 5.20pm

I would say that the IN vote is edging it, but I don't think you can gauge anything by the number of UKIP voters because many millions of people who want out of the EU didn't or wouldn't vote for them for a multitude of reasons.

'Millions of people'?.....How on earth would you know that?

I was replying to Kermit's comment about how he didn't think the OUT campaign could win, partially based on the number of votes UKIP got. I said that's a bad measure as many millions of people in favour of leaving the UK won't have voted UKIP. I'm not exactly sure what part of this you disagree with.

Edited by oldcodger (11 Oct 2015 6.31pm)

Really?

That's a bit like saying that those who voted Tory want to stay in the EU because they didn't vote Ukip.

It's blindingly obvious that a large percentage of Tory voters are anti EU......They don't vote Ukip because they don't want to let Labour in and through party loyalty.

If you add say....thirty percent of the Tory election vote (out of thirty eight) to Ukip's vote and a few percent from Labour's......I'd say that the projection is very interesting indeed.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Oct 2015 9.50pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 11 Oct 15 9.51pm
Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 8.59pm I like to take my time and not go all premature then wished I hadn't rushed. Is this a Kermy chat up line? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

11 Oct 15 9.51pm

Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 8.59pm

I like to take my time and not go all premature then wished I hadn't rushed.

Is this a Kermy chat up line?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 11 Oct 15 9.58pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 11 Oct 2015 7.35pm I think the EU should not wait for the vote, just kick erm out, complete waste of time and space. While their at it as they don't want to be part of the Europe, boot them out of UEFA also. Yeah maybe then the Netherlands can pick up the slack of being a major net contributor instead of being a tiny one. The main money comes from Germany, France and us. Only a moron does nothing to stop losing a major client. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Oct 15 9.58pm

Quote Sg Bilko at 11 Oct 2015 7.35pm

I think the EU should not wait for the vote, just kick erm out, complete waste of time and space.

While their at it as they don't want to be part of the Europe, boot them out of UEFA also.

Yeah maybe then the Netherlands can pick up the slack of being a major net contributor instead of being a tiny one.

The main money comes from Germany, France and us. Only a moron does nothing to stop losing a major client.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 11 Oct 15 10.00pm
Quote Catfish at 11 Oct 2015 9.12pm Like many people I am in a quandary where a large part of me says lets get out. It is made more difficult by the fact that there are people whose views I respect on both sides of the debate. Essentially, it is rather like the Scottish referendum were you have to decide whether to take a leap into the unknown or stick within the familiar system that you don't like and try to change it. Q. Will we better off? No one knows Q. Will we regain control of our borders? Probably not, if we want to continue trading with the EU they will impose conditions and free movement is likely to be one of them. If we insist on border controls British residents in Europe will suffer. Q. Will we still be able to trade within Europe? They will want to rub our noses in it before agreeing terms. We cannot automatically expect the same terms as other non-members. Q. Will we continue to kowtow to new EU regulations? If we want to continue trading? Yes. Q. Will we have a say in those new regulations? No Q. Will foreign companies based here pull out? Don't know. Q. Will we get back control of our fisheries? Maybe, but it will part of a deal and probably nothing will change. Q. Will we be able to repeal the Human Rights Act? We could, but it would likely be replaced by something else very similar. Q. Could we rejoin if it all went horribly wrong? Can you imagine the conditions they would impose if they had us by the short and curlies. Q. Could we just trade with someone else? We would have to, but if that is the case then there is nothing to stop us trading with them now. Q. The EU would continue making new laws, would we have any say in them? No. Unpopular and unromantic view, but I think I prefer the known to the unknown. Also a massively politically biased view pretending to be balanced. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

11 Oct 15 10.00pm

Quote Catfish at 11 Oct 2015 9.12pm

Like many people I am in a quandary where a large part of me says lets get out. It is made more difficult by the fact that there are people whose views I respect on both sides of the debate.

Essentially, it is rather like the Scottish referendum were you have to decide whether to take a leap into the unknown or stick within the familiar system that you don't like and try to change it.

Unpopular and unromantic view, but I think I prefer the known to the unknown.

Also a massively politically biased view pretending to be balanced.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 11 Oct 15 10.02pm
I'm a reluctant in at the moment However I will wait to see the arguments on both sides before committing the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 11 Oct 15 10.02pm

I'm a reluctant in at the moment

However I will wait to see the arguments on both sides before committing

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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