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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 07 Sep 15 5.09pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

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They were as naive with a severe lack of foresight then as UKIP are now.

You must be pleased that Labour lost the 1983 General Election then?


I was 18. I was still a virgin. I had other things on my mind.

You should have written to Jim'll Fix It.


I did. Rejected on the grounds of having a pulse

 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 5.10pm

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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

Some wages would still below what they were before the jobs were taken by EU immigrants prepared to work for much less. UKIP and others want us to make our own laws, control our own borders and run the country in the UK national interest rather than in the interests of disparate groups in Europe.

 


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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

Some wages would still below what they were before the jobs were taken by EU immigrants prepared to work for much less. UKIP and others want us to make our own laws, control our own borders and run the country in the UK national interest rather than in the interests of disparate groups in Europe.

Of course the first thing that would happen if we left the EU would be that everything we see in Calais and elsewhere would be happening in Dover.

Actually that isn't the first thing to happen would be widespread cancellation of investment in the UK as international organizations can no longer take advantage of Britains place in the EU.

Next would be the crisis in the NHS should the vast number of international workers feel they have more opportunities in the EU

The irony being that, as with the likes of Switzerland and Norway to which UKIP always refer - they enact almost all EU law anyway as tee price of access to the markets.

 

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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 5.42pm

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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

Some wages would still below what they were before the jobs were taken by EU immigrants prepared to work for much less. UKIP and others want us to make our own laws, control our own borders and run the country in the UK national interest rather than in the interests of disparate groups in Europe.

Of course the first thing that would happen if we left the EU would be that everything we see in Calais and elsewhere would be happening in Dover.

Actually that isn't the first thing to happen would be widespread cancellation of investment in the UK as international organizations can no longer take advantage of Britains place in the EU.

Next would be the crisis in the NHS should the vast number of international workers feel they have more opportunities in the EU

The irony being that, as with the likes of Switzerland and Norway to which UKIP always refer - they enact almost all EU law anyway as tee price of access to the markets.

You mean EU immigrants going home - great. The biggest problem we would face would be controlling the dancing in the streets.

 


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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

Some wages would still below what they were before the jobs were taken by EU immigrants prepared to work for much less. UKIP and others want us to make our own laws, control our own borders and run the country in the UK national interest rather than in the interests of disparate groups in Europe.

Of course the first thing that would happen if we left the EU would be that everything we see in Calais and elsewhere would be happening in Dover.

Actually that isn't the first thing to happen would be widespread cancellation of investment in the UK as international organizations can no longer take advantage of Britains place in the EU.

Next would be the crisis in the NHS should the vast number of international workers feel they have more opportunities in the EU

The irony being that, as with the likes of Switzerland and Norway to which UKIP always refer - they enact almost all EU law anyway as tee price of access to the markets.

You mean EU immigrants going home - great. The biggest problem we would face would be controlling the dancing in the streets.

Idiotic comment. Just about every hospital in the UK would close

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 15 5.56pm

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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

Some wages would still below what they were before the jobs were taken by EU immigrants prepared to work for much less. UKIP and others want us to make our own laws, control our own borders and run the country in the UK national interest rather than in the interests of disparate groups in Europe.

Of course the first thing that would happen if we left the EU would be that everything we see in Calais and elsewhere would be happening in Dover.

Actually that isn't the first thing to happen would be widespread cancellation of investment in the UK as international organizations can no longer take advantage of Britains place in the EU.

Next would be the crisis in the NHS should the vast number of international workers feel they have more opportunities in the EU

The irony being that, as with the likes of Switzerland and Norway to which UKIP always refer - they enact almost all EU law anyway as tee price of access to the markets.

You mean EU immigrants going home - great. The biggest problem we would face would be controlling the dancing in the streets.

Where will you house the ex pats coming home?

 

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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 5.58pm

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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

Some wages would still below what they were before the jobs were taken by EU immigrants prepared to work for much less. UKIP and others want us to make our own laws, control our own borders and run the country in the UK national interest rather than in the interests of disparate groups in Europe.

Of course the first thing that would happen if we left the EU would be that everything we see in Calais and elsewhere would be happening in Dover.

Actually that isn't the first thing to happen would be widespread cancellation of investment in the UK as international organizations can no longer take advantage of Britains place in the EU.

Next would be the crisis in the NHS should the vast number of international workers feel they have more opportunities in the EU

The irony being that, as with the likes of Switzerland and Norway to which UKIP always refer - they enact almost all EU law anyway as tee price of access to the markets.

You mean EU immigrants going home - great. The biggest problem we would face would be controlling the dancing in the streets.

Where will you house the ex pats coming home?

Bob Geldoff will put them up.

 


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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

Some wages would still below what they were before the jobs were taken by EU immigrants prepared to work for much less. UKIP and others want us to make our own laws, control our own borders and run the country in the UK national interest rather than in the interests of disparate groups in Europe.

Of course the first thing that would happen if we left the EU would be that everything we see in Calais and elsewhere would be happening in Dover.

Actually that isn't the first thing to happen would be widespread cancellation of investment in the UK as international organizations can no longer take advantage of Britains place in the EU.

Next would be the crisis in the NHS should the vast number of international workers feel they have more opportunities in the EU

The irony being that, as with the likes of Switzerland and Norway to which UKIP always refer - they enact almost all EU law anyway as tee price of access to the markets.

You mean EU immigrants going home - great. The biggest problem we would face would be controlling the dancing in the streets.

Idiotic comment. Just about every hospital in the UK would close

An you say my comment was idiotic!

 


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They were as naive with a severe lack of foresight then as UKIP are now.


Don't you think the EU has made a massive f*** up with its uncoordinated approach to the 'refugee crisis'?

 


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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

Some wages would still below what they were before the jobs were taken by EU immigrants prepared to work for much less. UKIP and others want us to make our own laws, control our own borders and run the country in the UK national interest rather than in the interests of disparate groups in Europe.

Of course the first thing that would happen if we left the EU would be that everything we see in Calais and elsewhere would be happening in Dover.

Actually that isn't the first thing to happen would be widespread cancellation of investment in the UK as international organizations can no longer take advantage of Britains place in the EU.

Next would be the crisis in the NHS should the vast number of international workers feel they have more opportunities in the EU

The irony being that, as with the likes of Switzerland and Norway to which UKIP always refer - they enact almost all EU law anyway as tee price of access to the markets.

You mean EU immigrants going home - great. The biggest problem we would face would be controlling the dancing in the streets.

Idiotic comment. Just about every hospital in the UK would close

An you say my comment was idiotic!

I do say that and repeat it. What percentage of doctors and other professional staff are not British nationals? I assume you know the answer otherwise you look foolish trying you explain how you are going to have to replace them.

I think the BMA might want to have a word as well

 

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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

Some wages would still below what they were before the jobs were taken by EU immigrants prepared to work for much less. UKIP and others want us to make our own laws, control our own borders and run the country in the UK national interest rather than in the interests of disparate groups in Europe.

Of course the first thing that would happen if we left the EU would be that everything we see in Calais and elsewhere would be happening in Dover.

Actually that isn't the first thing to happen would be widespread cancellation of investment in the UK as international organizations can no longer take advantage of Britains place in the EU.

Next would be the crisis in the NHS should the vast number of international workers feel they have more opportunities in the EU

The irony being that, as with the likes of Switzerland and Norway to which UKIP always refer - they enact almost all EU law anyway as tee price of access to the markets.

You mean EU immigrants going home - great. The biggest problem we would face would be controlling the dancing in the streets.

Idiotic comment. Just about every hospital in the UK would close

An you say my comment was idiotic!

I do say that and repeat it. What percentage of doctors and other professional staff are not British nationals? I assume you know the answer otherwise you look foolish trying you explain how you are going to have to replace them.

I think the BMA might want to have a word as well

Non-UK NHS staff I understand to be around 11%. The NHS would not collapse if we left the EU, the economy would not collapse if we left the EU. Economies in EU countries like Greece and Spain have certainly collapsed due to being members of the EU. It is just scaremongering by the pro-EU lobby as they are beginning to realise that there is a real possibility of us leaving. They would no doubt be some transitional issues, but the benefits of regaining control of our own country are worth far more.

 


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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

Some wages would still below what they were before the jobs were taken by EU immigrants prepared to work for much less. UKIP and others want us to make our own laws, control our own borders and run the country in the UK national interest rather than in the interests of disparate groups in Europe.

Of course the first thing that would happen if we left the EU would be that everything we see in Calais and elsewhere would be happening in Dover.

Actually that isn't the first thing to happen would be widespread cancellation of investment in the UK as international organizations can no longer take advantage of Britains place in the EU.

Next would be the crisis in the NHS should the vast number of international workers feel they have more opportunities in the EU

The irony being that, as with the likes of Switzerland and Norway to which UKIP always refer - they enact almost all EU law anyway as tee price of access to the markets.

You mean EU immigrants going home - great. The biggest problem we would face would be controlling the dancing in the streets.

Idiotic comment. Just about every hospital in the UK would close

An you say my comment was idiotic!

I do say that and repeat it. What percentage of doctors and other professional staff are not British nationals? I assume you know the answer otherwise you look foolish trying you explain how you are going to have to replace them.

I think the BMA might want to have a word as well

Non-UK NHS staff I understand to be around 11%. The NHS would not collapse if we left the EU, the economy would not collapse if we left the EU. Economies in EU countries like Greece and Spain have certainly collapsed due to being members of the EU. It is just scaremongering by the pro-EU lobby as they are beginning to realise that there is a real possibility of us leaving. They would no doubt be some transitional issues, but the benefits of regaining control of our own country are worth far more.


For professionally qualified staff it is 14% and for Doctors it is 26%. You dont think all those missing doctors might have an impact?

Greece and Spain are in a mess as a result of their own actions - in particular Greece with corrupt governments who didn't bother collecting taxes. You could certainly say it was made even worse by membership of the Euro but not the EU

 

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