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Stuk Top half 19 Aug 15 1.39pm | |
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That'll make it harder for places to choose to ban them, for no fact based reason, as they have been in train stations etc. Or most of Wales if Labour got their way:
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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 19 Aug 15 2.29pm | |
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Why not? They put recreational drugs on prescription such as morphine based painkillers and valium (not complaining like) so why not E-cigarettes, especially if it helps people come off the real thing.
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Johnny Eagles berlin 19 Aug 15 3.18pm | |
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I'm not convinced addiction is an "illness". (If it was, why can people give up smoking? You can't give up having diabetes or heart disease.) But then the NHS has long stopped treating only illnesses and does a load of social work too. I think it should charge patients at least a small amount for prescriptions of e-cigarettes, not just dish them out.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Aug 15 3.19pm | |
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Quote fed up eagle at 19 Aug 2015 2.29pm
Why not? They put recreational drugs on prescription such as morphine based painkillers and valium (not complaining like) so why not E-cigarettes, especially if it helps people come off the real thing. Probably for the medical value, sadly, not much of a use to those of us who prefer and up and all around, to a down.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Aug 15 3.24pm | |
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 19 Aug 2015 3.18pm
I'm not convinced addiction is an "illness". (If it was, why can people give up smoking? You can't give up having diabetes or heart disease.) But then the NHS has long stopped treating only illnesses and does a load of social work too. I think it should charge patients at least a small amount for prescriptions of e-cigarettes, not just dish them out. No but you can control both diabetes (in some forms) and heart disease, through changes in behaviors. There are genetic factors in addiction to, it seems. The problem though is more in dependency than addiction, addiction without dependency is just really a question of toughing it out for a few days to weeks while the body adjusts (addiction to downers, requires medical support, as the spasming of withdrawal needs to be treated, cold turkey with opiates and alcohol can be fatal). Most people on a prescription will be paying 7.49 per prescription.
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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 19 Aug 15 3.47pm | |
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People who smoked cigarettes and are now on e-cigs are already saving a lot of money as well as doing less damage to their health. As they already benefiting why should they then be subsidised even further by the NHS - that is supposed to be so cash strapped!
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Windebank East Preston 19 Aug 15 4.20pm | |
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I'll keep buying my own. I know they are good quality and no doubt better than what will be prescribed by the NHS.
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legaleagle 19 Aug 15 11.47pm | |
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Quote fed up eagle at 19 Aug 2015 2.29pm
Why not? They put recreational drugs on prescription such as morphine based painkillers and valium (not complaining like) so why not E-cigarettes, especially if it helps people come off the real thing.
NHS already funds stop smoking advice services etc. I stopped smoking for 15 years after being a guinea pig for testing nicotine gum before it was licensed.It really helped me quit as did doing it under the wing of as doctor/nurse and having to report back a few times. Relapsed....and have ordered my non nicotine vape starter pack tonight.Nothing wrong with using a "crutch" if it helps.Main thing is to help any one (if they want it) who wants to quit the dreaded ciggies. Edited by legaleagle (19 Aug 2015 11.54pm)
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leggedstruggle Croydon 20 Aug 15 6.21am | |
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Quote legaleagle at 19 Aug 2015 11.47pm
Quote fed up eagle at 19 Aug 2015 2.29pm
Why not? They put recreational drugs on prescription such as morphine based painkillers and valium (not complaining like) so why not E-cigarettes, especially if it helps people come off the real thing.
NHS already funds stop smoking advice services etc. I stopped smoking for 15 years after being a guinea pig for testing nicotine gum before it was licensed.It really helped me quit as did doing it under the wing of as doctor/nurse and having to report back a few times. Relapsed....and have ordered my non nicotine vape starter pack tonight.Nothing wrong with using a "crutch" if it helps.Main thing is to help any one (if they want it) who wants to quit the dreaded ciggies. Edited by legaleagle (19 Aug 2015 11.54pm) A know-all like you, who presumably knows that there is a good chance that smoking will kill you, still smokes! I guess it is all the worry over asylum seekers and helping vulnerable jihadists when they return.
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legaleagle 20 Aug 15 9.20am | |
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Let's put it this way,compared to you,I am very much a "know little" Yes,its amazing how irrational "we" can be.That's addiction for you.We smoke even though we know it might kill us,same as with heavy heavy drinkers. But congratulations for managing to work your obsession with asylum seekers into even a thread about e-cigarettes! Edited by legaleagle (20 Aug 2015 9.21am)
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mr. apollo Somewhere in Switzerland 21 Aug 15 10.51am | |
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Here's a good article on the subject.
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johnfirewall 21 Aug 15 11.01am | |
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So instead of something that makes people ill but brings in more tax than it costs to treat them, we're going to give them something for free which may or may not make them ill? Sounds like something New Labour would have cooked up. Obesity is the bigger issue and seeing as supermarkets are willing to take bold steps like banning Ribena (albeit not entirely altruistically) why can't the government force their hands when it comes to the pricing of veg vs junk food. That doesn't even need a subsidy although free fruit would be a far better idea than free e-cigs. Call me a fascist-socialist but I'd pay for a fat family's fruit and veg if it meant I could punish them for eating McDonalds. Edited by johnfirewall (21 Aug 2015 11.04am)
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