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Stuk Flag Top half 31 Jul 15 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

The DVLA website (and every piece of paper they've ever sent out) states that You must inform the DVLA of medical issues etc.

And that You must surrender your licence because of a medical condition, or if you don’t currently meet the required standards for driving.

He knew full well he was and is not fit to drive, anything, for a living.

 


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cornwalls palace Flag Torpoint 06 Aug 15 10.47pm

Quote Stuk at 31 Jul 2015 1.40pm

The DVLA website (and every piece of paper they've ever sent out) states that You must inform the DVLA of medical issues etc.

And that You must surrender your licence because of a medical condition, or if you don’t currently meet the required standards for driving.

He knew full well he was and is not fit to drive, anything, for a living.


..not a million miles away from a particular pilot who thought he'd kill himself and everyone else on it.

 


.......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!

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Stuk Flag Top half 07 Aug 15 2.10pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote cornwalls palace at 06 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote Stuk at 31 Jul 2015 1.40pm

The DVLA website (and every piece of paper they've ever sent out) states that You must inform the DVLA of medical issues etc.

And that You must surrender your licence because of a medical condition, or if you don’t currently meet the required standards for driving.

He knew full well he was and is not fit to drive, anything, for a living.


..not a million miles away from a particular pilot who thought he'd kill himself and everyone else on it.


Apart from intent it would seem.

I can't see how the families of the deceased aren't demanding charges be brought though.

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Aug 15 3.21pm

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Quote Stuk at 30 Jul 2015 3.23pm

They made the decision before the inquiry even commenced.

The driver didn't disclose his, very patchy, driving history and tendancy to black out. The council didn't get a reference for him.


Why would a man that has history of blacking out get behind the wheel of a Dust Cart? Selfish b****** and he should do time for the deaths. Minimum 10 years in my book. Wasn't an accident, He was aware it could happen and took the risk.


Because he had less passengers than when he was a bus driver. I reckon that was his logic anyway.

The necessity of earning a living, either way its a very negligent decision, as he should have been medically pensioned off as a bus driver



Jamie, fully appreciate your 'support of the downtrodden masses' approach to life but really, what sort of human would take a job in their right mind if they knew they could kill people because of a medical matter?

He shouldn't be doing that job and he shouldn't have put himself forward for that job. Simple as.

I'm not trying to defend him, his decision clearly was stupid and lethal, but people don't think in such clear ways about themselves and risks and jobs. They tend to dismiss the risk increasingly as they get away with it.

Similar to how drunk drivers think, they'll be alright and most usually are, and generally are more concerned with not getting pulled over, than causing an accident.


 


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Stuk Flag Top half 17 Aug 15 11.12am Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

One of the families of the victims intends to make a private prosecution, since Scotland's Crown office still refuses to do so.

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Real classy that. Passing on all the time, cost and effort that will take to a family because they can't be arsed to back down from their original position, say they got it wrong and seek to carry out justice for them.

 


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cornwalls palace Flag Torpoint 17 Aug 15 10.18pm

Quote bubble wrap at 30 Jul 2015 3.44pm

Quote Stuk at 30 Jul 2015 3.23pm

They made the decision before the inquiry even commenced.

The driver didn't disclose his, very patchy, driving history and tendancy to black out. The council didn't get a reference for him.


Why would a man that has history of blacking out get behind the wheel of a Dust Cart? Selfish b****** and he should do time for the deaths. Minimum 10 years in my book. Wasn't an accident, He was aware it could happen and took the risk.


..exactly.

 


.......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 18 Aug 15 1.50pm

Quote Stuk at 17 Aug 2015 11.12am

One of the families of the victims intends to make a private prosecution, since Scotland's Crown office still refuses to do so.

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Real classy that. Passing on all the time, cost and effort that will take to a family because they can't be arsed to back down from their original position, say they got it wrong and seek to carry out justice for them.

I also fail to see how a series of criminal prosecutions aren't the outcome.


 


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Stuk Flag Top half 20 Aug 15 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

The driver won't answer questions.

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Now knock inquiry on the head and start criminal proceedings.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 20 Aug 15 1.28pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Did this bloke bully you at school or something Stuk?

 

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Stuk Flag Top half 20 Aug 15 2.57pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote DanH at 20 Aug 2015 1.28pm

Did this bloke bully you at school or something Stuk?

He does look like he could've been held back 20 odd years but no.

I find it amazing that the jocks decided this was an "accident and that no charges would be pressed" when they hadn't even bothered to investigate the circumstances.

If I could find the original thread about it you'll see that my first instinct about the incident has now been proved so.

 


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cornwalls palace Flag Torpoint 05 Oct 15 1.47am

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..this man can't be sane surely, he needs a straight jacket for his own safety! and obviously cannot fathom empathy in any form, what an inconsiderate and dangerous tit he is.

 


.......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!

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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 05 Oct 15 9.32am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

The bloke is clearly a self centered grade A cnut of the highest order.

For me he should be tried for manslaughter, he may not have intended to kill, but as a result of his actions he did, 10 years per life he took. He should die inside.

Also a quick check on the DVLA website reveals:

DVLA require existing lorry drivers to have a medical at the age of 45 and then every five years until the age of 65. After 65, the medical has to be done every year.

So the question has to be asked how was this condition missed ? and if it was why and how.

At the end of the day you can rationalise his actions all you want, he killed 6 people and injured 15 more through his own selfishness.

Lock up. loose key.

 


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