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shaun57 chislehurst 30 May 15 11.41pm
Margaret Thatcher Gordon Brown David Cameron .....
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chislehurst 30 May 15 11.41pm

Margaret Thatcher
Gordon Brown
David Cameron
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Steptoe 30 May 15 11.51pm
Quote shaun57 at 30 May 2015 11.41pm Margaret Thatcher Gordon Brown David Cameron ..... The jury is out with Cameron, but Brown was a bull in a china shop I agree. Selling off our gold to the lowest bidder. Spin a wheel and find a better leader.
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30 May 15 11.51pm

Quote shaun57 at 30 May 2015 11.41pm

Margaret Thatcher
Gordon Brown
David Cameron
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The jury is out with Cameron, but Brown was a bull in a china shop I agree. Selling off our gold to the lowest bidder. Spin a wheel and find a better leader.

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Hoof Hearted 31 May 15 10.17am
Quote nickgusset at 30 May 2015 8.10pm Prime minsters? Could be York, or maybe West... Prime Mincers.... Alan Carr Graham Norton Jimmy Somerville
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Quote nickgusset at 30 May 2015 8.10pm

Prime minsters? Could be York, or maybe West...

Prime Mincers....

Alan Carr
Graham Norton
Jimmy Somerville

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derben 31 May 15 10.23am
Quote shaun57 at 30 May 2015 11.41pm Margaret Thatcher Gordon Brown David Cameron ..... Thatcher ineffectual? Whatever you think of her, she was anything but. Edited by derben (31 May 2015 10.23am)
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31 May 15 10.23am

Quote shaun57 at 30 May 2015 11.41pm

Margaret Thatcher
Gordon Brown
David Cameron
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Thatcher ineffectual? Whatever you think of her, she was anything but.

Edited by derben (31 May 2015 10.23am)

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Hoof Hearted 31 May 15 10.35am
Quote derben at 31 May 2015 10.23am Quote shaun57 at 30 May 2015 11.41pm Margaret Thatcher Gordon Brown David Cameron ..... Thatcher ineffectual? Whatever you think of her, she was anything but. Edited by derben (31 May 2015 10.23am) Ask the car manufacturing unions.... she kicked their arses back then to stop their pathetic activities which were killing any business's chances of competing with foreign companies.
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Hoof Hearted 31 May 15 10.35am

Quote derben at 31 May 2015 10.23am

Quote shaun57 at 30 May 2015 11.41pm

Margaret Thatcher
Gordon Brown
David Cameron
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Thatcher ineffectual? Whatever you think of her, she was anything but.

Edited by derben (31 May 2015 10.23am)

Ask the car manufacturing unions.... she kicked their arses back then to stop their pathetic activities which were killing any business's chances of competing with foreign companies.

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Joe Bloggs Nr Norwich 31 May 15 10.54am
Anthony Eden Alec Douglas Home John Major ) Gordon Brown ) Winston Churchill was sadly virtually senile but because the post war years were very difficult for all leaders and his war efforts I will exclude him.It has to be said though that lots of people detested Churchill even during the war years.
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Nr Norwich 31 May 15 10.54am

Anthony Eden
Alec Douglas Home
John Major )
Gordon Brown )

Winston Churchill was sadly virtually senile but because the post war years were very difficult for all leaders and his war efforts I will exclude him.It has to be said though that lots of people detested Churchill even during the war years.

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Catfish Burgess Hill 31 May 15 11.00am
History may look more kindly on Cameron than Blair in due course. Blair's tenure may go down as one of the biggest wasted opportunities ever given the size of the majorities and relative wealth available. The long term legacies of all that are hard to see. Cameron was given an awful hand but he and Clegg made a coalition work where none gave it a chance. They had to make very tough decisions and Clegg paid the price. After the expenses scandal, with parliaments reputation in tatters, it might be seen in hindsight that Cameron and Clegg both deserve huge credit for keeping the ship afloat. If cameron keeps Britain in the EU, pushes back Scottish independence and gets a reasonable deal with the EU he may go down as a very good PM. Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial
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Burgess Hill 31 May 15 11.00am

History may look more kindly on Cameron than Blair in due course. Blair's tenure may go down as one of the biggest wasted opportunities ever given the size of the majorities and relative wealth available. The long term legacies of all that are hard to see.
Cameron was given an awful hand but he and Clegg made a coalition work where none gave it a chance. They had to make very tough decisions and Clegg paid the price. After the expenses scandal, with parliaments reputation in tatters, it might be seen in hindsight that Cameron and Clegg both deserve huge credit for keeping the ship afloat. If cameron keeps Britain in the EU, pushes back Scottish independence and gets a reasonable deal with the EU he may go down as a very good PM.

Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial

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derben 31 May 15 11.02am
The more you look at the list of post war Prime Ministers, the more you have to think they were a sorry bunch in terms of getting things done (whether you agree or not with what they were actually trying to get done. The top three who did get their things done, I would say are: Attle Blair Thatcher
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derben

31 May 15 11.02am

The more you look at the list of post war Prime Ministers, the more you have to think they were a sorry bunch in terms of getting things done (whether you agree or not with what they were actually trying to get done.

The top three who did get their things done, I would say are:

Attle
Blair
Thatcher

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chris123 hove actually 31 May 15 11.23am
Quote legaleagle at 30 May 2015 9.41pm Alec Douglas Home Anthony Eden John Major Home was PM for less than a year and Eden for less than two - hard to have much effect given the length of time in office.
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hove actually 31 May 15 11.23am

Quote legaleagle at 30 May 2015 9.41pm

Alec Douglas Home
Anthony Eden
John Major

Home was PM for less than a year and Eden for less than two - hard to have much effect given the length of time in office.

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legaleagle 31 May 15 12.00pm
Sure, but Home was ineffectual enough to lose the 1964 election,being no match as a politician for Harold Wilson, and Eden certainly showed that (Suez debacle) a relatively short time in office is more than long enough to make a serious attyempt at being effectual that ends up being incredibly ineffectual in the round.
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legaleagle

31 May 15 12.00pm

Sure, but Home was ineffectual enough to lose the 1964 election,being no match as a politician for Harold Wilson, and Eden certainly showed that (Suez debacle) a relatively short time in office is more than long enough to make a serious attyempt at being effectual that ends up being incredibly ineffectual in the round.

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Joe Bloggs Nr Norwich 31 May 15 12.47pm
Would be a much harder task to nominate an effective prime minister given the divisive nature of our politics. Had better bail out now,because I have broken my own rule for not discussing politics...i got drawn in because I have lived through all Prime minsters post ww2--sorry
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Joe Bloggs

Nr Norwich 31 May 15 12.47pm

Would be a much harder task to nominate an effective prime minister given the divisive nature of our politics.

Had better bail out now,because I have broken my own rule for not discussing politics...i got drawn in because I have lived through all Prime minsters post ww2--sorry

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silvertop Portishead 01 Jun 15 9.22am
Quote chris123 at 31 May 2015 11.23am Quote legaleagle at 30 May 2015 9.41pm Alec Douglas Home Anthony Eden John Major Home was PM for less than a year and Eden for less than two - hard to have much effect given the length of time in office. Several mentions of this man. I suspect if you asked anyone in Northern Ireland whether he was ineffective, they may disagree as he was the one who started the peace process; practically single handed as he had to stand up to his entire cabinet. Not bad for a boring ex banker. There was also the cone line.
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silvertop

Portishead 01 Jun 15 9.22am

Quote chris123 at 31 May 2015 11.23am

Quote legaleagle at 30 May 2015 9.41pm

Alec Douglas Home
Anthony Eden
John Major

Home was PM for less than a year and Eden for less than two - hard to have much effect given the length of time in office.

Several mentions of this man. I suspect if you asked anyone in Northern Ireland whether he was ineffective, they may disagree as he was the one who started the peace process; practically single handed as he had to stand up to his entire cabinet. Not bad for a boring ex banker.

There was also the cone line.

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