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sprites Auckland 23 May 15 11.47pm
Quote imbored at 23 May 2015 11.41pm Quote Stirlingsays at 23 May 2015 11.26pm I don't regard all marriages as equal......I can see the sense in the law regarding them that way.....But I don't personally view them that way. If the majority wish for that to be the case though that's fine and how it should be. Religious or not the point of marriage in my book is to provide a secure and stable base for children later on.....I know not all people view it like that but to me that's the point. If older people get married or people who can't have children get married that's fine and dandy and an event worthy of celebration but it doesn't really chime in the same way with me. Same sex couples now get to describe their unions as 'marriage'. Well, I grew up with that meaning a union between a man and a woman. Just another example of the gradual creeping feminisation of British and now Irish society in my book. Feel free to see others as inferior. If your kids wind up being gay be sure to look them in the eye and tell them their their love and that their efforts to raise a family are second rate. There is nothing insecure and unstable about a gay family, unless you make it that way of course, which seems to be your intention. Who cares how it 'chimes' with you. Just because you would not view your own gay child's wedding ceremony wouldn't be in your eyes a 'marriage', it doesn't mean others aren't happy for them. Edited by imbored (23 May 2015 11.45pm) Can't agree with that. There are certain things that a 'mother' and 'father' bring to a child invidivdually...that two of one of the other just cannot give. It's simply not fair on the kid. Man was made for woman. But in this day and age, that ship has sailed. I now think if you want to be married to someone of the same sex...go for it. But don't involve kids. Getting my helmet ready...but that's just what i reckon.
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Quote Stirlingsays at 23 May 2015 11.26pm

I don't regard all marriages as equal......I can see the sense in the law regarding them that way.....But I don't personally view them that way.

If the majority wish for that to be the case though that's fine and how it should be.

Religious or not the point of marriage in my book is to provide a secure and stable base for children later on.....I know not all people view it like that but to me that's the point.

If older people get married or people who can't have children get married that's fine and dandy and an event worthy of celebration but it doesn't really chime in the same way with me.

Same sex couples now get to describe their unions as 'marriage'. Well, I grew up with that meaning a union between a man and a woman.

Just another example of the gradual creeping feminisation of British and now Irish society in my book.

Feel free to see others as inferior. If your kids wind up being gay be sure to look them in the eye and tell them their their love and that their efforts to raise a family are second rate. There is nothing insecure and unstable about a gay family, unless you make it that way of course, which seems to be your intention. Who cares how it 'chimes' with you.

Just because you would not view your own gay child's wedding ceremony wouldn't be in your eyes a 'marriage', it doesn't mean others aren't happy for them.

Edited by imbored (23 May 2015 11.45pm)

Can't agree with that. There are certain things that a 'mother' and 'father' bring to a child invidivdually...that two of one of the other just cannot give. It's simply not fair on the kid.

Man was made for woman. But in this day and age, that ship has sailed. I now think if you want to be married to someone of the same sex...go for it. But don't involve kids.

Getting my helmet ready...but that's just what i reckon.

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Mapletree Croydon 23 May 15 11.53pm
Quote sprites at 23 May 2015 11.47pm Quote imbored at 23 May 2015 11.41pm Quote Stirlingsays at 23 May 2015 11.26pm I don't regard all marriages as equal......I can see the sense in the law regarding them that way.....But I don't personally view them that way. If the majority wish for that to be the case though that's fine and how it should be. Religious or not the point of marriage in my book is to provide a secure and stable base for children later on.....I know not all people view it like that but to me that's the point. If older people get married or people who can't have children get married that's fine and dandy and an event worthy of celebration but it doesn't really chime in the same way with me. Same sex couples now get to describe their unions as 'marriage'. Well, I grew up with that meaning a union between a man and a woman. Just another example of the gradual creeping feminisation of British and now Irish society in my book. Feel free to see others as inferior. If your kids wind up being gay be sure to look them in the eye and tell them their their love and that their efforts to raise a family are second rate. There is nothing insecure and unstable about a gay family, unless you make it that way of course, which seems to be your intention. Who cares how it 'chimes' with you. Just because you would not view your own gay child's wedding ceremony wouldn't be in your eyes a 'marriage', it doesn't mean others aren't happy for them. Edited by imbored (23 May 2015 11.45pm) Can't agree with that. There are certain things that a 'mother' and 'father' bring to a child invidivdually...that two of one of the other just cannot give. It's simply not fair on the kid. Man was made for woman. But in this day and age, that ship has sailed. I now think if you want to be married to someone of the same sex...go for it. But don't involve kids. Getting my helmet ready...but that's just what i reckon. Get off your high horse. How many one parent families are there? And abusive male/female marriages. Anyone with two loving parents is blessed. If marriage is a sign of stability, by heck that is a great thing.
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Quote Stirlingsays at 23 May 2015 11.26pm

I don't regard all marriages as equal......I can see the sense in the law regarding them that way.....But I don't personally view them that way.

If the majority wish for that to be the case though that's fine and how it should be.

Religious or not the point of marriage in my book is to provide a secure and stable base for children later on.....I know not all people view it like that but to me that's the point.

If older people get married or people who can't have children get married that's fine and dandy and an event worthy of celebration but it doesn't really chime in the same way with me.

Same sex couples now get to describe their unions as 'marriage'. Well, I grew up with that meaning a union between a man and a woman.

Just another example of the gradual creeping feminisation of British and now Irish society in my book.

Just because you would not view your own gay child's wedding ceremony wouldn't be in your eyes a 'marriage', it doesn't mean others aren't happy for them.

Edited by imbored (23 May 2015 11.45pm)

Can't agree with that. There are certain things that a 'mother' and 'father' bring to a child invidivdually...that two of one of the other just cannot give. It's simply not fair on the kid.

Man was made for woman. But in this day and age, that ship has sailed. I now think if you want to be married to someone of the same sex...go for it. But don't involve kids.

Getting my helmet ready...but that's just what i reckon.

Get off your high horse. How many one parent families are there? And abusive male/female marriages. Anyone with two loving parents is blessed. If marriage is a sign of stability, by heck that is a great thing.

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imbored UK 23 May 15 11.55pm
Quote sprites at 23 May 2015 11.47pm Quote imbored at 23 May 2015 11.41pm Quote Stirlingsays at 23 May 2015 11.26pm I don't regard all marriages as equal......I can see the sense in the law regarding them that way.....But I don't personally view them that way. If the majority wish for that to be the case though that's fine and how it should be. Religious or not the point of marriage in my book is to provide a secure and stable base for children later on.....I know not all people view it like that but to me that's the point. If older people get married or people who can't have children get married that's fine and dandy and an event worthy of celebration but it doesn't really chime in the same way with me. Same sex couples now get to describe their unions as 'marriage'. Well, I grew up with that meaning a union between a man and a woman. Just another example of the gradual creeping feminisation of British and now Irish society in my book. Feel free to see others as inferior. If your kids wind up being gay be sure to look them in the eye and tell them their their love and that their efforts to raise a family are second rate. There is nothing insecure and unstable about a gay family, unless you make it that way of course, which seems to be your intention. Who cares how it 'chimes' with you. Just because you would not view your own gay child's wedding ceremony wouldn't be in your eyes a 'marriage', it doesn't mean others aren't happy for them. Edited by imbored (23 May 2015 11.45pm) Can't agree with that. There are certain things that a 'mother' and 'father' bring to a child invidivdually...that two of one of the other just cannot give. It's simply not fair on the kid. Man was made for woman. But in this day and age, that ship has sailed. I now think if you want to be married to someone of the same sex...go for it. But don't involve kids. Getting my helmet ready...but that's just what i reckon. Well if someone is gay clearly that particular man is not made for a woman and that woman is not made for a man. Unless you are suggesting that they are mentally ill for being attracted to the same sex. Edited by imbored (23 May 2015 11.56pm)
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Quote Stirlingsays at 23 May 2015 11.26pm

I don't regard all marriages as equal......I can see the sense in the law regarding them that way.....But I don't personally view them that way.

If the majority wish for that to be the case though that's fine and how it should be.

Religious or not the point of marriage in my book is to provide a secure and stable base for children later on.....I know not all people view it like that but to me that's the point.

If older people get married or people who can't have children get married that's fine and dandy and an event worthy of celebration but it doesn't really chime in the same way with me.

Same sex couples now get to describe their unions as 'marriage'. Well, I grew up with that meaning a union between a man and a woman.

Just another example of the gradual creeping feminisation of British and now Irish society in my book.

Just because you would not view your own gay child's wedding ceremony wouldn't be in your eyes a 'marriage', it doesn't mean others aren't happy for them.

Edited by imbored (23 May 2015 11.45pm)

Can't agree with that. There are certain things that a 'mother' and 'father' bring to a child invidivdually...that two of one of the other just cannot give. It's simply not fair on the kid.

Man was made for woman. But in this day and age, that ship has sailed. I now think if you want to be married to someone of the same sex...go for it. But don't involve kids.

Getting my helmet ready...but that's just what i reckon.

Well if someone is gay clearly that particular man is not made for a woman and that woman is not made for a man. Unless you are suggesting that they are mentally ill for being attracted to the same sex.

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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 24 May 15 12.36am
I do not see this need to get married for me it's more of a statement for the gay community a bit like women when they was fighting for rights. Before we start granting this gay rights/marriage stuff we really should be sorting out a fair system for men. I do not see how two gay men can have children when in this country the laws/rights are sided to women so how would it work if they split it's very messed up. (VPN) - [Link] (Alt VPN) - [Link]
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I do not see this need to get married for me it's more of a statement for the gay community a bit like women when they was fighting for rights.

Before we start granting this gay rights/marriage stuff we really should be sorting out a fair system for men.

I do not see how two gay men can have children when in this country the laws/rights are sided to women so how would it work if they split it's very messed up.

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Stirlingsays 24 May 15 12.46am
Quote imbored at 23 May 2015 11.41pm Quote Stirlingsays at 23 May 2015 11.26pm I don't regard all marriages as equal......I can see the sense in the law regarding them that way.....But I don't personally view them that way. If the majority wish for that to be the case though that's fine and how it should be. Religious or not the point of marriage in my book is to provide a secure and stable base for children later on.....I know not all people view it like that but to me that's the point. If older people get married or people who can't have children get married that's fine and dandy and an event worthy of celebration but it doesn't really chime in the same way with me. Same sex couples now get to describe their unions as 'marriage'. Well, I grew up with that meaning a union between a man and a woman. Just another example of the gradual creeping feminisation of British and now Irish society in my book. Feel free to see others unions as inferior. If your kids wind up being gay be sure to look them in the eye and tell them their their love and that their efforts to raise a family are second rate. There is nothing intrinsically insecure and unstable about a gay family, unless you help make it that way of course, which seems to be your intention. Who cares how it 'chimes' with you. Just because you would not view your own gay child's wedding ceremony as a 'marriage', it doesn't mean others aren't happy for them and I am thankful for that fact. Edited by imbored (24 May 2015 12.08am) You use the word 'inferior' and then use a lot of emotive silly language. You don't really care for my viewpoint, fair enough. While, my one year old son may grow up to be gay I don't have any problem raising him with these views, while encouring him to think for himself....As any parent should do. Him being gay and my views on marriage has nothing to do with me loving him any less....I think that's irrational. I don't see all marriages as equal.....Society doesn't either....Does society care the same about the last royal wedding as it does for someone's register marriage?......You use the word 'inferior'.....I don't see it like that. They are a different form of union.....The same as an older couple getting married as in my example. A reason for people connected to them to share in their happiness but not a requirement for them to all view things exactly the same. You may wish to bundle everyone into the same category but personally I don't. And that's ok. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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I don't regard all marriages as equal......I can see the sense in the law regarding them that way.....But I don't personally view them that way.

If the majority wish for that to be the case though that's fine and how it should be.

Religious or not the point of marriage in my book is to provide a secure and stable base for children later on.....I know not all people view it like that but to me that's the point.

If older people get married or people who can't have children get married that's fine and dandy and an event worthy of celebration but it doesn't really chime in the same way with me.

Same sex couples now get to describe their unions as 'marriage'. Well, I grew up with that meaning a union between a man and a woman.

Just another example of the gradual creeping feminisation of British and now Irish society in my book.

Feel free to see others unions as inferior. If your kids wind up being gay be sure to look them in the eye and tell them their their love and that their efforts to raise a family are second rate. There is nothing intrinsically insecure and unstable about a gay family, unless you help make it that way of course, which seems to be your intention. Who cares how it 'chimes' with you.

Just because you would not view your own gay child's wedding ceremony as a 'marriage', it doesn't mean others aren't happy for them and I am thankful for that fact.

Edited by imbored (24 May 2015 12.08am)

You use the word 'inferior' and then use a lot of emotive silly language. You don't really care for my viewpoint, fair enough.

While, my one year old son may grow up to be gay I don't have any problem raising him with these views, while encouring him to think for himself....As any parent should do. Him being gay and my views on marriage has nothing to do with me loving him any less....I think that's irrational.

I don't see all marriages as equal.....Society doesn't either....Does society care the same about the last royal wedding as it does for someone's register marriage?......You use the word 'inferior'.....I don't see it like that. They are a different form of union.....The same as an older couple getting married as in my example. A reason for people connected to them to share in their happiness but not a requirement for them to all view things exactly the same.

You may wish to bundle everyone into the same category but personally I don't.

And that's ok.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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imbored UK 24 May 15 12.56am
Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2015 12.46am Quote imbored at 23 May 2015 11.41pm Quote Stirlingsays at 23 May 2015 11.26pm I don't regard all marriages as equal......I can see the sense in the law regarding them that way.....But I don't personally view them that way. If the majority wish for that to be the case though that's fine and how it should be. Religious or not the point of marriage in my book is to provide a secure and stable base for children later on.....I know not all people view it like that but to me that's the point. If older people get married or people who can't have children get married that's fine and dandy and an event worthy of celebration but it doesn't really chime in the same way with me. Same sex couples now get to describe their unions as 'marriage'. Well, I grew up with that meaning a union between a man and a woman. Just another example of the gradual creeping feminisation of British and now Irish society in my book. Feel free to see others unions as inferior. If your kids wind up being gay be sure to look them in the eye and tell them their their love and that their efforts to raise a family are second rate. There is nothing intrinsically insecure and unstable about a gay family, unless you help make it that way of course, which seems to be your intention. Who cares how it 'chimes' with you. Just because you would not view your own gay child's wedding ceremony as a 'marriage', it doesn't mean others aren't happy for them and I am thankful for that fact. Edited by imbored (24 May 2015 12.08am) You use the word 'inferior' and then use a lot of emotive silly language. You don't really care for my viewpoint, fair enough. While, my one year old son may grow up to be gay I don't have any problem raising him with these views, while encouring him to think for himself....As any parent should do. Him being gay and my views on marriage has nothing to do with me loving him any less....I think that's irrational. I don't see all marriages as equal.....Society doesn't either....Does society care the same about the last royal wedding as it does for someone's register marriage?......You use the word 'inferior'.....I don't see it like that. They are a different form of union.....The same as an older couple getting married as in my example. A reason for people connected to them to share in their happiness but not a requirement for them to all view things exactly the same. You may wish to bundle everyone into the same category but personally I don't. And that's ok. Yes, because it's not like you're bundling all gay people into a category is it. If someone had the nerve to accuse you of providing an insecure and unstable enviromment for your child maybe you would be unhappy about that. Perhaps gay couples feel that way too. Believe what you like of course. If you view a couples marriage as less equal and less secure and stable on account that the parents are gay that is for you. That is however what inferior means. It's also your choice to say that you personally do not lend validity to the term 'marriage' once people are in fact able to get married. Go for it. Edited by imbored (24 May 2015 1.12am)
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I don't regard all marriages as equal......I can see the sense in the law regarding them that way.....But I don't personally view them that way.

If the majority wish for that to be the case though that's fine and how it should be.

Religious or not the point of marriage in my book is to provide a secure and stable base for children later on.....I know not all people view it like that but to me that's the point.

If older people get married or people who can't have children get married that's fine and dandy and an event worthy of celebration but it doesn't really chime in the same way with me.

Same sex couples now get to describe their unions as 'marriage'. Well, I grew up with that meaning a union between a man and a woman.

Just another example of the gradual creeping feminisation of British and now Irish society in my book.

Just because you would not view your own gay child's wedding ceremony as a 'marriage', it doesn't mean others aren't happy for them and I am thankful for that fact.

Edited by imbored (24 May 2015 12.08am)

You use the word 'inferior' and then use a lot of emotive silly language. You don't really care for my viewpoint, fair enough.

You may wish to bundle everyone into the same category but personally I don't.

And that's ok.

Yes, because it's not like you're bundling all gay people into a category is it. If someone had the nerve to accuse you of providing an insecure and unstable enviromment for your child maybe you would be unhappy about that. Perhaps gay couples feel that way too.

Believe what you like of course. If you view a couples marriage as less equal and less secure and stable on account that the parents are gay that is for you. That is however what inferior means. It's also your choice to say that you personally do not lend validity to the term 'marriage' once people are in fact able to get married. Go for it.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 24 May 15 1.09am
the brains just score a goal against the dinosaurs , hooray ........yis are all just a bunch of dirty weee hooooers and father o'reilly can take a running jump back to the christian missions out in darkest borneo Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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the brains just score a goal against the dinosaurs , hooray ........yis are all just a bunch of dirty weee hooooers

and father o'reilly can take a running jump back to the christian missions out in darkest borneo

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Stirlingsays 24 May 15 1.11am
Quote imbored at 24 May 2015 12.56am Yes, because it's not like you're bundling all gay people into a category is it. If someone had the nerve to accuse you of providing an insecure and unstable enviromment for your child maybe you would be unhappy about that. Perhaps gay couples feel that way too. Believe what you like of course. If you view a couples marriage as less equal and less secure and stable on account that the parents are gay that is for you. That is however what inferior means. It's also your choice to say that you personally do not lend validity to the term 'marriage' once people are in fact able to get married. Go for it. Gay people are in a category by virture of being gay....What I do is recognise that fact. It is you and those who share you view who have decided that this makes no difference in terms of marriage......You have won the day...Fair play, but I don't buy someone telling me a spade is a pick. Anyone can accuse me of anything they like. I know the truth of my child's environment. You may feel that same sex parents are equal in worth to opposite sex.....And as you say, 'go for it'. However, while I wouldn't rule it out in some circumstances I just don't view it as 'ideal' or equal......Just as one parent families aren't ideal but that often people just don't have a choice. Only a minority get the 'ideal' in many ways. Also....I view 'inferior' as a loaded word. I've already said that there is no reason that these unions can't be celebrated. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2015 1.15am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Gay people are in a category by virture of being gay....What I do is recognise that fact. It is you and those who share you view who have decided that this makes no difference in terms of marriage......You have won the day...Fair play, but I don't buy someone telling me a spade is a pick.

Anyone can accuse me of anything they like. I know the truth of my child's environment. You may feel that same sex parents are equal in worth to opposite sex.....And as you say, 'go for it'. However, while I wouldn't rule it out in some circumstances I just don't view it as 'ideal' or equal......Just as one parent families aren't ideal but that often people just don't have a choice.

Only a minority get the 'ideal' in many ways.

Also....I view 'inferior' as a loaded word. I've already said that there is no reason that these unions can't be celebrated.

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Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2015 1.11am Quote imbored at 24 May 2015 12.56am Yes, because it's not like you're bundling all gay people into a category is it. If someone had the nerve to accuse you of providing an insecure and unstable enviromment for your child maybe you would be unhappy about that. Perhaps gay couples feel that way too. Believe what you like of course. If you view a couples marriage as less equal and less secure and stable on account that the parents are gay that is for you. That is however what inferior means. It's also your choice to say that you personally do not lend validity to the term 'marriage' once people are in fact able to get married. Go for it. Gay people are in a category by virture of being gay....What I do is recognise that fact. It is you and those who share you view who have decided that this makes no difference in terms of marriage......You have won the day...Fair play, but I don't buy someone telling me a spade is a pick. Anyone can accuse me of anything they like. I know the truth of my child's environment. You may feel that same sex parents are equal in worth to opposite sex.....And as you say, 'go for it'. However, while I wouldn't rule it out in some circumstances I just don't view it as 'ideal' or equal......Just as one parent families aren't ideal but that often people just don't have a choice. Only a minority get the 'ideal' in many ways. My post was more about the marriage question than same sex parents.......That's a tricky subject and one that I have mixed views on. People prejudiced against gay people are a category too. We're going around in circles. I have news for you. If your kid is straight he's going to grow up, likely get married, possibly have children and try to make the best of his life. I have more news for you. If your kid is gay he's going to grow up, likely get married, possibly have children and try to make the best of his life. At no point do your passed on 'words of wisdom' about gay marriage not 'really' being 'marriage', your assumption that such couples are likely to provide an insecure environment, or your feeling that this is the sign of some kind of problem with society help him in any way. They can only aim as to make him prejudiced against people, or to give him a needless and thoughtless inferiority complex about himself. What exactly is the positive outcome? Just because you 'feel' a certain way because that's what you grew up being told, it doesn't mean that it's useful to impart now. Are you even married yourself? I haven't won anything. Society has. In Castletownroche, a man in his 80s said his YES would probably be his last vote. "I want to leave Ireland better than I found it." A thoughtfulness of young and old alike. Edited by imbored (24 May 2015 1.45am)
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Only a minority get the 'ideal' in many ways.

My post was more about the marriage question than same sex parents.......That's a tricky subject and one that I have mixed views on.

People prejudiced against gay people are a category too. We're going around in circles.

I have news for you. If your kid is straight he's going to grow up, likely get married, possibly have children and try to make the best of his life.

I have more news for you. If your kid is gay he's going to grow up, likely get married, possibly have children and try to make the best of his life.

At no point do your passed on 'words of wisdom' about gay marriage not 'really' being 'marriage', your assumption that such couples are likely to provide an insecure environment, or your feeling that this is the sign of some kind of problem with society help him in any way. They can only aim as to make him prejudiced against people, or to give him a needless and thoughtless inferiority complex about himself. What exactly is the positive outcome? Just because you 'feel' a certain way because that's what you grew up being told, it doesn't mean that it's useful to impart now. Are you even married yourself?

I haven't won anything. Society has. In Castletownroche, a man in his 80s said his YES would probably be his last vote. "I want to leave Ireland better than I found it." A thoughtfulness of young and old alike.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 24 May 15 1.22am
now we can have dysfunctional gay parents to match all the dysfunctional straight parents of the past. this referendum now allows gays to be as miserable as straights in marriage. fair enough. also, anybody advocating violence against gays should get their words tattooed onto their forehead. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 24 May 15 1.22am

now we can have dysfunctional gay parents to match all the dysfunctional straight parents of the past.

this referendum now allows gays to be as miserable as straights in marriage. fair enough.

also, anybody advocating violence against gays should get their words tattooed onto their forehead.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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imbored UK 24 May 15 1.24am
Quote PalazioVecchio at 24 May 2015 1.22am now we can have dysfunctional gay parents to match all the dysfunctional straight parents of the past. this referendum now allows gays to be as miserable as straights in marriage. fair enough. also, anybody advocating violence against gays should get their words tattooed onto their forehead. Exactly, everyone deserves the same chance at misery
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Quote PalazioVecchio at 24 May 2015 1.22am

now we can have dysfunctional gay parents to match all the dysfunctional straight parents of the past.

this referendum now allows gays to be as miserable as straights in marriage. fair enough.

also, anybody advocating violence against gays should get their words tattooed onto their forehead.

Exactly, everyone deserves the same chance at misery

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Quote imbored at 24 May 2015 1.21am People prejudiced against gay people are a category too. We're going around in circles. I have news for you. If your kid is straight he's going to grow up, likely get married, possibly have children and try to make the best of his life. I have more news for you. If your kid is gay he's going to grow up, likely get married, possibly have children and try to make the best of his life. At no point do your passed on 'words of wisdom' about gay marriage not 'really' being 'marriage', your assumption that such couples are likely to provide an insecure environment, or your feeling that this is the sign of some kind of problem with society help him in any way. They can only aim as to make him prejudiced against people, or to give him a needless and thoughtless inferiority complex about himself. What exactly is the positive outcome? Just because you 'feel' a certain way because that's what you grew up being told, it doesn't mean that it's useful to impart now. Are you even married yourself? I haven't won anything. Society has. In Castletownroche, a man in his 80s said his YES would probably be his last vote. "I want to leave Ireland better than I found it." A thoughtfulness of young and old alike. Edited by imbored (24 May 2015 1.45am) Ah, the sweet perfume of someone who believes. I'd love to argue the points but I'm noticing that you don't answer points I make...Similar to my posts on the hypocrisy of egalitarianism.....You just avoid the point and go on an emotive narrative of your own. That's ok, you sincerely believe in equality, I'm happy for your re-shaping of reality. In the meantime I'm off to bed. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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24 May 15 1.57am

Quote imbored at 24 May 2015 1.21am

People prejudiced against gay people are a category too. We're going around in circles.

I have news for you. If your kid is straight he's going to grow up, likely get married, possibly have children and try to make the best of his life.

I have more news for you. If your kid is gay he's going to grow up, likely get married, possibly have children and try to make the best of his life.

Edited by imbored (24 May 2015 1.45am)

Ah, the sweet perfume of someone who believes.

I'd love to argue the points but I'm noticing that you don't answer points I make...Similar to my posts on the hypocrisy of egalitarianism.....You just avoid the point and go on an emotive narrative of your own.

That's ok, you sincerely believe in equality, I'm happy for your re-shaping of reality.

In the meantime I'm off to bed.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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