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derben Flag 15 May 15 12.27pm

Quote lankygit at 15 May 2015 10.17am

RIP BB.

Got to see the man a few years back on a double bill with Gary Moore. Both gone now.

Edited by lankygit (15 May 2015 10.18am)

I didn't know Gary Moore had died, great shame - Blues For Greeny a great album.

 

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legaleagle Flag 15 May 15 12.37pm

Quote Plane at 15 May 2015 11.03am

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 10.40am

RIP BB.

I always thought he was overrated (and his best work ended 45-55 years ago) compared to some of his contemporaries who never crossed over as much into the mainstream and who died at a younger age( ie Junior Parker or Elmore James) but he undeniably was responsible for opening a lot of people's eyes to the blues and the originators of the music rather than the
British (and American) acts who took what those people had done,copied it and made piles of money as "rock gods".


I know what you mean but without the imitators the old Blues artists wouldn't have got any recognition due to American racism.

A sad loss to music

RIP BB

Fair point...but,as an example, pity Willie Dixon had to sue for plagiarism to get royalties from Led Zeppelin for their "self-composed" mass royalty generating "Whole Lotta Love",taken from Willie's song "You Need Love"....

Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 12.42pm)

 

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OldFella Flag London 15 May 15 12.43pm Send a Private Message to OldFella Add OldFella as a friend

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 10.40am

RIP BB.

I always thought he was overrated (and his best work ended 45-55 years ago) compared to some of his contemporaries who never crossed over as much into the mainstream and who died at a younger age( ie Junior Parker or Elmore James) but he undeniably was responsible for opening a lot of people's eyes to the blues and the originators of the music rather than the
British (and American) acts who took what those people had done,copied it and made piles of money as "rock gods".

Yawn. An opinion in an empty room.


 


Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

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legaleagle Flag 15 May 15 12.57pm

Quote OldFella at 15 May 2015 12.43pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 10.40am

RIP BB.

I always thought he was overrated (and his best work ended 45-55 years ago) compared to some of his contemporaries who never crossed over as much into the mainstream and who died at a younger age( ie Junior Parker or Elmore James) but he undeniably was responsible for opening a lot of people's eyes to the blues and the originators of the music rather than the
British (and American) acts who took what those people had done,copied it and made piles of money as "rock gods".

Yawn. An opinion in an empty room.


Didn't know you were a fellow lover of blues music

What other blues artists do you particularly admire,and why?

What would be your precise arguments for saying BB was in no way overrated Old Fella and that it wasn't a reasonable view someone could hold..other than the fact that it was my opinion!

 

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Plane Flag Bromley 15 May 15 2.58pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 12.37pm

Quote Plane at 15 May 2015 11.03am

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 10.40am

RIP BB.

I always thought he was overrated (and his best work ended 45-55 years ago) compared to some of his contemporaries who never crossed over as much into the mainstream and who died at a younger age( ie Junior Parker or Elmore James) but he undeniably was responsible for opening a lot of people's eyes to the blues and the originators of the music rather than the
British (and American) acts who took what those people had done,copied it and made piles of money as "rock gods".


I know what you mean but without the imitators the old Blues artists wouldn't have got any recognition due to American racism.

A sad loss to music

RIP BB

Fair point...but,as an example, pity Willie Dixon had to sue for plagiarism to get royalties from Led Zeppelin for their "self-composed" mass royalty generating "Whole Lotta Love",taken from Willie's song "You Need Love"....

Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 12.42pm)

I was thinking more of the bands of the 60s, who were inspired by the ol' blues boys, if they hadn't covered their tracks, they would possibly never gained any fame. Also, the supertars of the 60s often repay them by way of working on their projects for free, there's great album by Jimmy Rogers that features Jimmy Page and Robert Plant, Keith Richards and Mick Jagger, Eric Clapton, Taj Mahal, Ted Harvey, Carey Bell, Stephen Stills, and Jeff Healey, amongst others.

 

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legaleagle Flag 15 May 15 4.09pm

Fair point.And yes,the Jimmy Rogers album is a good one.

 

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OldFella Flag London 15 May 15 8.42pm Send a Private Message to OldFella Add OldFella as a friend

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 12.57pm

Quote OldFella at 15 May 2015 12.43pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 10.40am

RIP BB.

I always thought he was overrated (and his best work ended 45-55 years ago) compared to some of his contemporaries who never crossed over as much into the mainstream and who died at a younger age( ie Junior Parker or Elmore James) but he undeniably was responsible for opening a lot of people's eyes to the blues and the originators of the music rather than the
British (and American) acts who took what those people had done,copied it and made piles of money as "rock gods".

Yawn. An opinion in an empty room.


Didn't know you were a fellow lover of blues music

What other blues artists do you particularly admire,and why?

What would be your precise arguments for saying BB was in no way overrated Old Fella and that it wasn't a reasonable view someone could hold..other than the fact that it was my opinion!

Big fan of blues, R&B and trad jazz. Blues favourites?
Albert Ammons (boogie woogie), Earl Hines, Count Basie, Muddy Waters, Buddy Guy. And then the Stones!

BB King I really do see as "King of The Blues", his own virtuoso performances richly supported by sax and brass backing. Just a great sound i.m.o.


 


Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

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legaleagle Flag 15 May 15 9.23pm

Old Fella, we're on the same page I really like that stuff too including "traditional" New Orleans jazz.

I'm not saying BB wasn't good,just in my opinion overrated compared to some others who died earlier without the level of fame.I think his best stuff was in the 50's.Do you know his small group record "My Kind of Blues"?When it comes to blues with big brassy backgrounds,I like the records Bobby Bland made.

Earl Hines? Now you are talking.Have been listening to a lot of his stuff from the 60's in recent months.An album he did with Jimmy Rushing,one with Buck Clayton All Stars, and another with Coleman Hawkins and Roy Eldridge.

Basie? Love the stuff from the Lester Young era.The Atomic Basic from the 50's is not bad either.He did a nice small group album with Big Joe Turner in the early 70's. Though when it comes to "big band swing" I think Duke Ellington was incomparable.

Muddy Waters? Was listening to "Sings Big Bill Broonzy" earlier this week.Never really appreciated Buddy Guy's solo stuff,though I like the stuff Junior Wells did with him.

Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 9.39pm)

 

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mikebcpfc Flag Horsham 15 May 15 11.08pm Send a Private Message to mikebcpfc Add mikebcpfc as a friend

Gene symmonds of all people on bbc news talking about how blues is basically men feeling depressed cause they abuse women. What the f***....

 

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legaleagle Flag 16 May 15 11.27am

I thought Gene talked quite a lot of nonsense on Newsnight last night.

 

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derben Flag 16 May 15 11.42am

Quote legaleagle at 16 May 2015 11.27am

I thought Gene talked quite a lot of nonsense on Newsnight last night.

I like some elements of the Blues.

 

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legaleagle Flag 16 May 15 11.46am

Yes,I can well understand its elemental aspects appealing to you.

 

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