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Mapletree Croydon 08 May 15 4.57pm
Quote NEILLO at 08 May 2015 4.46pm Dave & Co. seem to be the most unpopular government since the Thatcher days. Yet Labour failed to take advantage of that. Shows how poor their Leadership choices are / were. Not really. Mostly it shows that people didn't want to hand over the keys to their safety deposit boxes to the Jocks.
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Mapletree

Croydon 08 May 15 4.57pm

Quote NEILLO at 08 May 2015 4.46pm

Dave & Co. seem to be the most unpopular government since the Thatcher days.

Yet Labour failed to take advantage of that. Shows how poor their Leadership choices are / were.

Not really. Mostly it shows that people didn't want to hand over the keys to their safety deposit boxes to the Jocks.

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Pussay Patrol 08 May 15 4.57pm
What about his stupid policies like capping fuel prices when they were really high? Even though he was the energy secretary who brought in all the green policies? What about the Mansion tax? Total Crap He also wanted to cap rents which would never work He was clueless and out of touch Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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Pussay Patrol

08 May 15 4.57pm

What about his stupid policies like capping fuel prices when they were really high? Even though he was the energy secretary who brought in all the green policies?

What about the Mansion tax? Total Crap

He also wanted to cap rents which would never work

He was clueless and out of touch

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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imbored UK 08 May 15 5.03pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 08 May 2015 4.42pm Quote imbored at 08 May 2015 4.32pm Personality politics in full flow. Let's vote for someone based on how sexy or otherwise they look eating a bacon sandwich. Maybe we should have a lovely legs contest instead of voting on policy. The trouble is it wasn't just the bacon sandwich. For however many years leading up to the election he came across as a bumbling fool. Some of that undoubtedly down to the press but he was lurched from one disaster to another. He actually did quite well during the debates but then this last week he started to sound a bit too desperate, talking in soundbites. He even tripped up leaving the stage, if that had been the only gaff it could have been laughed off but he hardly came across as someone who could command respect. I would imagine Larry Grayson would have scared Putin / IS more than Ed. Then there was the casual dismissal of the IFS and absolving the last Labour administration from any responsibility. They had to push Milliband forward as Balls had to be kept out of the spotlight. I suppose that's true. There's being a politician who doesn't quite fit the image, a 'rough diamond', and then just being a bit of a klutz, albeit a well meaning one.
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imbored

UK 08 May 15 5.03pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 08 May 2015 4.42pm

Quote imbored at 08 May 2015 4.32pm

Personality politics in full flow. Let's vote for someone based on how sexy or otherwise they look eating a bacon sandwich. Maybe we should have a lovely legs contest instead of voting on policy.

The trouble is it wasn't just the bacon sandwich. For however many years leading up to the election he came across as a bumbling fool. Some of that undoubtedly down to the press but he was lurched from one disaster to another. He actually did quite well during the debates but then this last week he started to sound a bit too desperate, talking in soundbites.

He even tripped up leaving the stage, if that had been the only gaff it could have been laughed off but he hardly came across as someone who could command respect. I would imagine Larry Grayson would have scared Putin / IS more than Ed.

Then there was the casual dismissal of the IFS and absolving the last Labour administration from any responsibility.

They had to push Milliband forward as Balls had to be kept out of the spotlight.

I suppose that's true. There's being a politician who doesn't quite fit the image, a 'rough diamond', and then just being a bit of a klutz, albeit a well meaning one.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 May 15 5.20pm
Quote Pussay Patrol at 08 May 2015 4.57pm What about his stupid policies like capping fuel prices when they were really high? Even though he was the energy secretary who brought in all the green policies? What about the Mansion tax? Total Crap He also wanted to cap rents which would never work He was clueless and out of touch Capping rents not a bad idea if you consider that housing benefit goes straight into the pockets of landlords who hike rents, rather than to a local authority who would be able to charge cheaper rents and also keeping it under our ownership. I really hope labour have some balls and lurch leftwards. Mark my words the tories haven't even started cutting yet, by the time the next election comes around...
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 08 May 15 5.20pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 08 May 2015 4.57pm

What about his stupid policies like capping fuel prices when they were really high? Even though he was the energy secretary who brought in all the green policies?

What about the Mansion tax? Total Crap

He also wanted to cap rents which would never work

He was clueless and out of touch

Capping rents not a bad idea if you consider that housing benefit goes straight into the pockets of landlords who hike rents, rather than to a local authority who would be able to charge cheaper rents and also keeping it under our ownership.

I really hope labour have some balls and lurch leftwards. Mark my words the tories haven't even started cutting yet, by the time the next election comes around...

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Stuk Top half 08 May 15 5.27pm
Quote nickgusset at 08 May 2015 5.20pm Quote Pussay Patrol at 08 May 2015 4.57pm What about his stupid policies like capping fuel prices when they were really high? Even though he was the energy secretary who brought in all the green policies? What about the Mansion tax? Total Crap He also wanted to cap rents which would never work He was clueless and out of touch Capping rents not a bad idea if you consider that housing benefit goes straight into the pockets of landlords who hike rents, rather than to a local authority who would be able to charge cheaper rents and also keeping it under our ownership. I really hope labour have some balls and lurch leftwards. Mark my words the tories haven't even started cutting yet, by the time the next election comes around... Boris will be leader. You can't wait for that can you? Optimistic as ever
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Stuk

Top half 08 May 15 5.27pm

Quote nickgusset at 08 May 2015 5.20pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 08 May 2015 4.57pm

What about his stupid policies like capping fuel prices when they were really high? Even though he was the energy secretary who brought in all the green policies?

What about the Mansion tax? Total Crap

He also wanted to cap rents which would never work

He was clueless and out of touch

I really hope labour have some balls and lurch leftwards. Mark my words the tories haven't even started cutting yet, by the time the next election comes around...

Boris will be leader. You can't wait for that can you?

Optimistic as ever

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elgrande bedford 08 May 15 5.30pm
What about 2 Kitchens!!!!!!!!!,"Well we don't use this one it's for the nanny" Yeah real man of the people. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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elgrande

bedford 08 May 15 5.30pm

What about 2 Kitchens!!!!!!!!!,"Well we don't use this one it's for the nanny"

Yeah real man of the people.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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imbored UK 08 May 15 5.51pm
Quote elgrande at 08 May 2015 5.30pm What about 2 Kitchens!!!!!!!!!,"Well we don't use this one it's for the nanny" Yeah real man of the people. Haha, that was a bit cringeworthy. They're all out of touch with normal life, it's all about who can bulls*** the best .
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imbored

UK 08 May 15 5.51pm

Quote elgrande at 08 May 2015 5.30pm

What about 2 Kitchens!!!!!!!!!,"Well we don't use this one it's for the nanny"

Yeah real man of the people.

Haha, that was a bit cringeworthy.

They're all out of touch with normal life, it's all about who can bulls*** the best .

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silvertop Portishead 08 May 15 6.00pm
Quote NEILLO at 08 May 2015 4.46pm Dave & Co. seem to be the most unpopular government since the Thatcher days. Yet Labour failed to take advantage of that. Shows how poor their Leadership choices are / were. Shades of foot. Had they picked a presentable electable leader rather than the mop on a stick, things would have been very different. As it happened the Tories used foot to wash the floor. The unions need to balance the need for a yes man and the need for power.
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silvertop

Portishead 08 May 15 6.00pm

Quote NEILLO at 08 May 2015 4.46pm

Dave & Co. seem to be the most unpopular government since the Thatcher days.

Yet Labour failed to take advantage of that. Shows how poor their Leadership choices are / were.

Shades of foot. Had they picked a presentable electable leader rather than the mop on a stick, things would have been very different. As it happened the Tories used foot to wash the floor. The unions need to balance the need for a yes man and the need for power.

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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 08 May 15 6.09pm
Quote Stuk at 08 May 2015 5.27pm Quote nickgusset at 08 May 2015 5.20pm Quote Pussay Patrol at 08 May 2015 4.57pm What about his stupid policies like capping fuel prices when they were really high? Even though he was the energy secretary who brought in all the green policies? What about the Mansion tax? Total Crap He also wanted to cap rents which would never work He was clueless and out of touch Capping rents not a bad idea if you consider that housing benefit goes straight into the pockets of landlords who hike rents, rather than to a local authority who would be able to charge cheaper rents and also keeping it under our ownership. I really hope labour have some balls and lurch leftwards. Mark my words the tories haven't even started cutting yet, by the time the next election comes around... Boris will be leader. You can't wait for that can you? Surely they moved to the left this time and look where it got them. They didn't win in the 90'sh by 'lurching' to the left. If you not noticed the English have no great love of socialism.
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rob1969

Banstead Surrey 08 May 15 6.09pm

Quote Stuk at 08 May 2015 5.27pm

Quote nickgusset at 08 May 2015 5.20pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 08 May 2015 4.57pm

What about his stupid policies like capping fuel prices when they were really high? Even though he was the energy secretary who brought in all the green policies?

What about the Mansion tax? Total Crap

He also wanted to cap rents which would never work

He was clueless and out of touch

I really hope labour have some balls and lurch leftwards. Mark my words the tories haven't even started cutting yet, by the time the next election comes around...

Boris will be leader. You can't wait for that can you?

Surely they moved to the left this time and look where it got them. They didn't win in the 90'sh by 'lurching' to the left. If you not noticed the English have no great love of socialism.

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Murray's the man round ear 08 May 15 6.09pm
Quote silvertop at 08 May 2015 6.00pm Quote NEILLO at 08 May 2015 4.46pm Dave & Co. seem to be the most unpopular government since the Thatcher days. Yet Labour failed to take advantage of that. Shows how poor their Leadership choices are / were. Shades of foot. Had they picked a presentable electable leader rather than the mop on a stick, things would have been very different. As it happened the Tories used foot to wash the floor. The unions need to balance the need for a yes man and the need for power. David Milliband Johnny will return
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Murray's the man

round ear 08 May 15 6.09pm

Quote silvertop at 08 May 2015 6.00pm

Quote NEILLO at 08 May 2015 4.46pm

Dave & Co. seem to be the most unpopular government since the Thatcher days.

Yet Labour failed to take advantage of that. Shows how poor their Leadership choices are / were.

David Milliband

Johnny will return

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ciaron21 leeds 08 May 15 6.27pm
Milliband was so far removed from working people and so arrogant with his "there will be no vote on Europe " speech he lost support in a lot of places. Also the cover ups in Rotherham etc. did not help, unwilling to accept immigration levels were too high. Simply out of touch.
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ciaron21

leeds 08 May 15 6.27pm

Milliband was so far removed from working people and so arrogant with his "there will be no vote on Europe " speech he lost support in a lot of places.
Also the cover ups in Rotherham etc. did not help, unwilling to accept immigration levels were too high.
Simply out of touch.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 May 15 6.33pm
Quote Murray's the man at 08 May 2015 6.09pm Quote silvertop at 08 May 2015 6.00pm Quote NEILLO at 08 May 2015 4.46pm Dave & Co. seem to be the most unpopular government since the Thatcher days. Yet Labour failed to take advantage of that. Shows how poor their Leadership choices are / were. Shades of foot. Had they picked a presentable electable leader rather than the mop on a stick, things would have been very different. As it happened the Tories used foot to wash the floor. The unions need to balance the need for a yes man and the need for power. David Milliband Miliband distanced himself from "New Labour" and took the party to the 'Left' but you cannot win elections in the UK from the 'Left'. Miliband didn't come across as a credible leader and at the end of the day the voters never trusted Labour to deliver especially on the economy. Edited by Willo (08 May 2015 6.33pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 08 May 15 6.33pm

Quote Murray's the man at 08 May 2015 6.09pm

Quote silvertop at 08 May 2015 6.00pm

Quote NEILLO at 08 May 2015 4.46pm

Dave & Co. seem to be the most unpopular government since the Thatcher days.

Yet Labour failed to take advantage of that. Shows how poor their Leadership choices are / were.

David Milliband

Miliband distanced himself from "New Labour" and took the party to the 'Left' but you cannot win elections in the UK from the 'Left'. Miliband didn't come across as a credible leader and at the end of the day the voters never trusted Labour to deliver especially on the economy.

Edited by Willo (08 May 2015 6.33pm)

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