That was a vote for AV, though. Not PR.

It just seems a shame that 'minority interests' remain so. They don't get a chance to develop any critical mass under fptp.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt!

and this..

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Of course we should have PR - still based on constituencies.The FPTP system is blatantly unfair and is unsuited to a multi party system that we now have with a wide spread of votes.
Will it happen? Not as long as the governing party has and thinks they can continue to form a majority government.

In 2010 we had - for the first time in many years - a government that received 60+ per cent of the votes.
A government that could truly claim to represent the majority. A government - for some reason always referred to in the media as 'the coalition' as though it wasn't actually a government - that lasted the full term and - whist never satisfying everybody - was kept very near the centre of the political spectrum.

2015 - We are back to a government elected on 40 or so per cent of the votes and due to a modest majority and right wing pressure from within will move well away from the centre ground

So as far as representative government is concerned we have taken a step back.

Ironically, the EU elections are by PR and we have lots of UKIP MEPs. There even used to be two BNP MEPs. Presumably those who clamour for PR are happy with that?

What I find most worrying about this argument is that it seems to have only become an issue because of the parties involved.

The nature of the SNP with wanting to break up the country and the uncertainty surrounds them makes people not like them.

The Conservatives are being slammed by a more vocal left before they have even started is concerning. In terms of the Government (which seems to have attracted a lot of disdain), this Government is more representative than 2005 when there was no clamour for reform:

2015 Government: Conservatives: 36.9% vote and 50.9% seats

2005 Government: Labour: 35.2% vote and 55.1% seats

Had the Lib Dems got the same votes that the SNP did in Scotland and had Labour got the Conservatives' votes in England, I do not believe that this would be an issue.

Moreover, had the Conservatives and UKIP teamed up and formed a majority (would be around 50%) under PR, I get the impression that there would still be protesting.

Very dangerous to change a system when judgment is clouded by personal opinion of specific parties for some.

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