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jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Apr 15 12.58pm
If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable. You can have great fun with this, and radicals. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 27 Apr 15 12.58pm

If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable.

You can have great fun with this, and radicals.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 1.02pm
Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..." What as in 'I'm not racist but as Diversity Co-ordinator at Goldsmiths college I actively discriminate against Black and Asian men by banning them from an anti Racism meeting ? This isn't about race at all - its about the utter stupidity and idiocy of those who somehow find themselves in positions of, albeit in this case, limited, tin pot authority. Edited by The Sash (27 Apr 2015 1.04pm) As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm

here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..."

What as in 'I'm not racist but as Diversity Co-ordinator at Goldsmiths college I actively discriminate against Black and Asian men by banning them from an anti Racism meeting ?

This isn't about race at all - its about the utter stupidity and idiocy of those who somehow find themselves in positions of, albeit in this case, limited, tin pot authority.

Edited by The Sash (27 Apr 2015 1.04pm)

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 1.03pm
Quote nickgusset at 27 Apr 2015 12.40pm Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 12.28pm Quote Johnny Eagles at 27 Apr 2015 12.22pm A mate of mine is a radical feminist and into all the trans- BME people of colour stuff. I got into a debate on Facebook with a few of her "mates". One guy was ok, but the rest were a scary bunch. I posted something which didn't conform to their accepted world view and it got pretty nasty, pretty quickly (ironic, given how they consider themselves the height of tolerance). It was along the same lines as this story. Ie, there was a flat-share in Berlin where if you wanted to invite a white person you had to inform the other flatmates in advance. I said this was racist. They said only "people of colour" are able to determine what is racist. Anything I, as part of the white male patriarchy, might say, is per se devoid of meaning. Which to any normal thinking person is bonkers fascist brainwashing guff of the type we thought we had got rid of in 1945. But to these people, immersed in their twitter feeds and subject to the rule of the electronic mob, it's progressive and enlightened. My personal fave phrase of the moment is the 'non-binary' one to describe someone who doesn't want to be pigeonholed as either overtly male or female - truly outstanding...and I whole heartedly doff my cap to its originator. I agree JE - You tend find that those who are supposedly uber tolerant generally speaking are anything but the sort. There are 10 kinds of people who understand binary. Those that do and those that don't. There's someone on the LGBT committee in the NUT who refuses to talk to men, gay men or transexuals. We joke she should form her own L group. Boom Tish As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 1.03pm

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Quote Johnny Eagles at 27 Apr 2015 12.22pm

A mate of mine is a radical feminist and into all the trans- BME people of colour stuff. I got into a debate on Facebook with a few of her "mates".

One guy was ok, but the rest were a scary bunch. I posted something which didn't conform to their accepted world view and it got pretty nasty, pretty quickly (ironic, given how they consider themselves the height of tolerance).

It was along the same lines as this story. Ie, there was a flat-share in Berlin where if you wanted to invite a white person you had to inform the other flatmates in advance. I said this was racist. They said only "people of colour" are able to determine what is racist. Anything I, as part of the white male patriarchy, might say, is per se devoid of meaning.

Which to any normal thinking person is bonkers fascist brainwashing guff of the type we thought we had got rid of in 1945. But to these people, immersed in their twitter feeds and subject to the rule of the electronic mob, it's progressive and enlightened.

My personal fave phrase of the moment is the 'non-binary' one to describe someone who doesn't want to be pigeonholed as either overtly male or female - truly outstanding...and I whole heartedly doff my cap to its originator.

I agree JE - You tend find that those who are supposedly uber tolerant generally speaking are anything but the sort.

There are 10 kinds of people who understand binary. Those that do and those that don't.

There's someone on the LGBT committee in the NUT who refuses to talk to men, gay men or transexuals. We joke she should form her own L group.

Boom Tish

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 1.05pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.58pm If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable. You can have great fun with this, and radicals. Fully 'trannied' up ??? As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.58pm

If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable.

You can have great fun with this, and radicals.

Fully 'trannied' up ???

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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PalazioVecchio south pole 27 Apr 15 1.15pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.58pm If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable. go along dressed up as Hitler. And tell them its ok cos your missus is Jewish, you have english as a second language, worked as a bohemian artist, spent long periods on the dole, are a vegetarian, are not a christian, are tee-total, are from a broken home, never went to college or worked in a middle-class career, and your manhood is lying somewhere along the river Somme. [Link] Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Apr 2015 1.30pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.58pm

If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable.

go along dressed up as Hitler. And tell them its ok cos your missus is Jewish, you have english as a second language, worked as a bohemian artist, spent long periods on the dole, are a vegetarian, are not a christian, are tee-total, are from a broken home, never went to college or worked in a middle-class career, and your manhood is lying somewhere along the river Somme.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Apr 15 1.31pm
Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 1.05pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.58pm If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable. You can have great fun with this, and radicals. Fully 'trannied' up ??? Yep. Wouldn't be the first time (I went in drag to protest a Wimmins Peace meeting because they were no men allowed - because obviously men just want war). Then spent the next twenty minutes demonstrating they were sexist by determining gender identity as being determined by physical sexual characteristics. In the end I was allowed in, and that's the last time that group met. Quite a few hopped over to CND after that and found the whole incident quite amusing. The Millie Tent leader was furious about it apparently. Fun times. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.58pm

If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable.

You can have great fun with this, and radicals.

Fully 'trannied' up ???

Yep. Wouldn't be the first time (I went in drag to protest a Wimmins Peace meeting because they were no men allowed - because obviously men just want war). Then spent the next twenty minutes demonstrating they were sexist by determining gender identity as being determined by physical sexual characteristics. In the end I was allowed in, and that's the last time that group met. Quite a few hopped over to CND after that and found the whole incident quite amusing.

The Millie Tent leader was furious about it apparently.

Fun times.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Apr 15 1.32pm
Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 1.15pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.58pm If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable. go along dressed up as Hitler. And tell them its ok cos your missus is Jewish, you have english as a second language, worked as a bohemian artist, spent long periods on the dole, are a vegetarian, are not a christian, are tee-total, are from a broken home, never went to college or worked in a middle-class career, and your manhood is lying somewhere along the river Somme. [Link] Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Apr 2015 1.30pm) The term to use is 'post-modern irony'. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.58pm

If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Apr 2015 1.30pm)

The term to use is 'post-modern irony'.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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soulboy Lewisham 27 Apr 15 1.53pm
Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.42pm Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..." I'm not a racist but i am organising a party at Goldsmiths but no straight white men are allowed to participate, even if they have been invited by friends from a more welcome demographic group" Think this could be a permanent thread on its own.....? But seriously why not expend some energy on addressing the glaring lack of diversity (there are often more black faces on the pitch) at SP in a Borough with a healthy percentage BME. Or do we feel that engaging in such dialogue is; a) painful b) not required, we are happy as we are c) it's all down to Mark Bright d) Having Wilf, Jase and Bolasie is enough d) they don't like football so it's a waste of time e) they can get a bit intimidating if there's more than a couple f) bloody hell that might jeopardise my season ticket g) let's do it for the police and army and leave it there h) all of the above i) none of the above "Deviance is a freedom enjoyed in a city of lightly engaged strangers"
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Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm

here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..."

I'm not a racist but i am organising a party at Goldsmiths but no straight white men are allowed to participate, even if they have been invited by friends from a more welcome demographic group"

Think this could be a permanent thread on its own.....? But seriously why not expend some energy on addressing the glaring lack of diversity (there are often more black faces on the pitch) at SP in a Borough with a healthy percentage BME. Or do we feel that engaging in such dialogue is;
a) painful
b) not required, we are happy as we are
c) it's all down to Mark Bright
d) Having Wilf, Jase and Bolasie is enough
d) they don't like football so it's a waste of time
e) they can get a bit intimidating if there's more than a couple
f) bloody hell that might jeopardise my season ticket
g) let's do it for the police and army and leave it there
h) all of the above
i) none of the above

"Deviance is a freedom enjoyed in a city of lightly engaged strangers"

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Lyons550 Shirley 27 Apr 15 1.58pm
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PalazioVecchio south pole 27 Apr 15 2.10pm
Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 1.53pm Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.42pm Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..." I'm not a racist but i am organising a party at Goldsmiths but no straight white men are allowed to participate, even if they have been invited by friends from a more welcome demographic group" Think this could be a permanent thread on its own.....? But seriously why not expend some energy on addressing the glaring lack of diversity (there are often more black faces on the pitch) at SP in a Borough with a healthy percentage BME. Or do we feel that engaging in such dialogue is; a) painful b) not required, we are happy as we are c) it's all down to Mark Bright d) Having Wilf, Jase and Bolasie is enough d) they don't like football so it's a waste of time e) they can get a bit intimidating if there's more than a couple f) bloody hell that might jeopardise my season ticket g) let's do it for the police and army and leave it there h) all of the above i) none of the above i agree with the sentiment. Most blacks i know south of the river all support Arsenal. it breaks my heart too. And any white fascist scum i have ever met all seemed to support chelscum. we do need more black faces in the audience at selhurst. i dont suppose the fella at goldsmith's has any useful advice ? considering he is in millwall territory its doubtful. we need to steal some fans from Wenger Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 1.53pm

Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.42pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm

here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..."

I'm not a racist but i am organising a party at Goldsmiths but no straight white men are allowed to participate, even if they have been invited by friends from a more welcome demographic group"

i agree with the sentiment. Most blacks i know south of the river all support Arsenal. it breaks my heart too. And any white fascist scum i have ever met all seemed to support chelscum. we do need more black faces in the audience at selhurst. i dont suppose the fella at goldsmith's has any useful advice ? considering he is in millwall territory its doubtful.
we need to steal some fans from Wenger

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 2.11pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 1.31pm Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 1.05pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.58pm If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable. You can have great fun with this, and radicals. Fully 'trannied' up ??? Yep. Wouldn't be the first time (I went in drag to protest a Wimmins Peace meeting because they were no men allowed - because obviously men just want war). Then spent the next twenty minutes demonstrating they were sexist by determining gender identity as being determined by physical sexual characteristics. In the end I was allowed in, and that's the last time that group met. Quite a few hopped over to CND after that and found the whole incident quite amusing. The Millie Tent leader was furious about it apparently. Fun times. As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 2.11pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 1.31pm

Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 1.05pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.58pm

If I was on the list, I'd have gone just to wind them up, and demanded definitions of what constituted white and male, and acceptable.

You can have great fun with this, and radicals.

Fully 'trannied' up ???

Yep. Wouldn't be the first time (I went in drag to protest a Wimmins Peace meeting because they were no men allowed - because obviously men just want war). Then spent the next twenty minutes demonstrating they were sexist by determining gender identity as being determined by physical sexual characteristics. In the end I was allowed in, and that's the last time that group met. Quite a few hopped over to CND after that and found the whole incident quite amusing.

The Millie Tent leader was furious about it apparently.

Fun times.

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 2.14pm
Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 1.53pm Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.42pm Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..." I'm not a racist but i am organising a party at Goldsmiths but no straight white men are allowed to participate, even if they have been invited by friends from a more welcome demographic group" Think this could be a permanent thread on its own.....? But seriously why not expend some energy on addressing the glaring lack of diversity (there are often more black faces on the pitch) at SP in a Borough with a healthy percentage BME. Or do we feel that engaging in such dialogue is; a) painful b) not required, we are happy as we are c) it's all down to Mark Bright d) Having Wilf, Jase and Bolasie is enough d) they don't like football so it's a waste of time e) they can get a bit intimidating if there's more than a couple f) bloody hell that might jeopardise my season ticket g) let's do it for the police and army and leave it there h) all of the above i) none of the above j) Perhaps ask said 'BME's' (what a horrible piece of jargon to pigeon hole people by) as to why they don't come rather than summise and suppose ? As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 2.14pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 1.53pm

Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.42pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm

here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..."

I'm not a racist but i am organising a party at Goldsmiths but no straight white men are allowed to participate, even if they have been invited by friends from a more welcome demographic group"

j) Perhaps ask said 'BME's' (what a horrible piece of jargon to pigeon hole people by) as to why they don't come rather than summise and suppose ?

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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