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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 8.15pm |
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Originally posted by Herts_CPFC
Lol, it's not a trick question or a trap. Pretty much standard viewpoint for any leftist, who are hardly original in their thought? Towing the party line and not bothering to think for themselves appears to be the overall theme for anyone on this side of the political spectrum. You won't "lose points" acknowledging or ageing with this, it's just a fact Edited by Herts_CPFC (17 Feb 2017 8.04pm) You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The left is littered with factions, so there isn't really an official line to follow unless you take labour as being the lefts party line. Different factions will support different aspects. You've also not considered the tensions regarding a reintroduction of clause 4 (as you're such an expert on the left I trust you know what I'm talking about) It's a shame because such lame sweeping generalisations and tabloid fuelled comments negate any points you may be trying to get across.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 8.16pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
WTF? Are you suggesting going back to hunter gathering? Is that Corbyn's latest brainwave? Oh dear, you've really missed the point.
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  Hrolf The Ganger 17 Feb 17 8.18pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
This is what is being reported as happening in the Stoke By Election: How terrible British values are, no? Welcome to the politics of future Britain. All so predictable.
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| Herts_CPFC 17 Feb 17 8.20pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The left is littered with factions, so there isn't really an official line to follow unless you take labour as being the lefts party line. Different factions will support different aspects. You've also not considered the tensions regarding a reintroduction of clause 4 (as you're such an expert on the left I trust you know what I'm talking about) It's a shame because such lame sweeping generalisations and tabloid fuelled comments negate any points you may be trying to get across. Lol, perhaps I will get to know what I'm talking about when I become one of the enlightened sheeple, just like yourself are you disagreeing that there are general opinions which the vast majority, if not all, self described left wingers adhere with? Let's see if we can get a yes/no answer out of you now. Do you generally agree that multiculturalism has been and is, a positive policy in the UK? (Extra marks if you can answer yes/no without going off on a tangent about a totally unrelated topic. Its. It a trick question and I hope you have some conviction behind your beliefs).
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| Herts_CPFC 17 Feb 17 8.21pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Oh dear, you've really missed the point. What is your point exactly? Do you have one?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Feb 17 8.22pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Oh dear, you've really missed the point. I think not. To disapprove of corporate influence in politics is one thing but to imply that there is such thing as a corporate party suggests that your party disproves of the principles that have helped forge our entire modern society. So Corbyn. so Left wing, so 1970's.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 8.39pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think not. To disapprove of corporate influence in politics is one thing but to imply that there is such thing as a corporate party suggests that your party disproves of the principles that have helped forge our entire modern society. Sorry sunbeam, no implication. You need to stop letting your imagination run away with you. There are parties more sympathetic to corporations / big business than others. That you cannot deny. As for the emboldened bit, I love that you had to make up something completely different to what I said then use your made up view of what I said to deliver a punchline. Edited by nickgusset (17 Feb 2017 8.42pm)
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| johnfirewall 17 Feb 17 8.55pm |
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There's a whole book about them called 'Notes from a Small Island'
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Feb 17 9.00pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Sorry sunbeam, no implication. You need to stop letting your imagination run away with you. There are parties more sympathetic to corporations / big business than others. That you cannot deny. As for the emboldened bit, I love that you had to make up something completely different to what I said then use your made up view of what I said to deliver a punchline. Edited by nickgusset (17 Feb 2017 8.42pm) You mean like the last 'New'Labour government?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 9.10pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You mean like the last 'New'Labour government? Yep getting rid of clause 4 was a bad thing in my book. But it was enough to persuade Murdock he could be used.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Feb 17 9.22pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Yep getting rid of clause 4 was a bad thing in my book. But it was enough to persuade Murdock he could be used. They didn't get rid of it. They changed it. It was mere words anyway. Blair's Labour won the middle ground of politics and briefly cast aside the ghost of Labour's union pandering past.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Feb 17 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Yep getting rid of clause 4 was a bad thing in my book. But it was enough to persuade Murdock he could be used. Surely stopping calling each other 'comrade' at their conferences alienated millions of working class voters?
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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