The BBC are just annoying when they so so obviously take sides politically.

Trump says what he thinks....of course he won't be able to most of what he says but at least he lays out what he thinks and be damned who likes it.

I prefer that to the Clintons....more sensible in their pronouncements and policies but also corrupt as hell.

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The Left Wing horse was beaten in the Democratic race (Saunders). Even his own party, in an presidential election year, have turned on him to sabotage his chances. It seems that a lot of republicans would rather Clinton won, than their own nominee.

I don't see much difference between the coverage of Trump and Corbyn.

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It's worth noting that the collective defense provisions of the NATO accord have been invoked only once in the entire history of the treaty.

That would be everyone else in NATO rising to the defense of the United States after 9/11.

Bunch of freeloaders...

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

9/11 was 'rising to the defense of the US' was it?

Funny that, I seem to remember 55 Britons dying in those towers and 67 overall plus obviously also the nationals of many western countries.

The response to 9/11 was through Nato...an attack on one was an attack on all. You putting honouring treaty commitments as some kind of notable event is ridiculous....yeah well done.

The US pay 22 percent of direct funding for Nato, one third more than the next highest....This is fair as it is tracked to economics....However the US pay for around 75 percent of indirect funding for Nato.....intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; air-to-air refueling; ballistic missile defense; and airborne electronic warfare.

The fact that most of Europe are defence free riders on defence isn't only a fact mentioned by Trump but its also been said by Obama.

So yeah, freeloaders.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I'm really not sure what you're getting at here. My post was simply a factual statement: yes, the common defense clause in NATO was invoked for 9/11, and it's the only time in history that this has been done. You can look it up.

As to the rest of of your rant, you are completely ignoring the value to member states - and the U.S. in particular - in having a stable Europe. That wasn't the case until NATO came along; before that it was a squabbling continent, with countries constantly popping off at each other, that occasionally dragged the rest of the world into its fights. When that happened, the cost in blood and money was catastrophic.

NATO - and the U.S. commitment to it - is the only thing keeping Putin from rolling his tanks back through Eastern Europe. This is why Trump's rhetoric around reneging on NATO commitments is so dangerous. If he gives Putin the idea that President Trump would sit back and let it happen, it will happen if Trump is President.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

I've studied 9/11 for years....its amusing to listen to you telling me to look up facts related to it.

Your post had nothing to do with the fact that much of Europe freeloads upon the cost of national defence. You equated Nato's response to 9/11 with Europe's defence spending......amazing.

Making justifications for America picking up the slack is ridiculous....of course it isn't in America's interest for enemies to invade Europe....that doesn't mean it's for America to pay for other countries defence.....this is absurd .

Also your simplistic view of how Putin would react to a Trump presidency is also ridiculous.....Even if Putin somehow thought that occupying Europe was somehow a good thing for Russia how the feck is he going to pay for this world war? Do you even know anything about their economy?

I'm actually communicating with someone who believes in simplistic fantasies.....You share more things in common with Trump than you realize.

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