I don't think they're naive and stupid, they are naive and stupid (if they think this). There's doing well for yourself and being comfortable, and then there's taking the piss, with no regard for anyone else other than yourself. Community and society works on cohesion, not division.

I also don't agree with more and more and more. I agree with balanced, reasoned rises for those that simply do not need vast amounts of wealth. Even an idiot could agree that there comes a point where you simply do not actually need more and more money – when purchases become ostentatious and egotistical – it's at that stage especially where I feel things could and should be more balanced. Modest tax increases for people way and above 'comfortable' is hardly a revolutionary, or even damaging concept.

Anyone with any sense of community or human understanding should be able to grasp that, rather than simply always aiming for more because they can.

Once again, I say this as a 'comfortably' high earner.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (13 Dec 2019 11.51am)

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

A question worthy of an answer. To be honest, at this precise moment all I want is one less star on that s***ty flag. It is a start. And whilst not the biggest fan of the Johnson WA, it at least moves it forward.

I am actually not that happy with the size of the win last night. Would have happily settled for a much small majority because it might have reined Johnson in and allowed the ERG to hold him to account more.

My ideal outcome would have been a hung Parliament with the Brexit Party holding the keys to a majority so we all have our disapointments.

Ideally I want a Canada style free trade agreement. Not overly bothered about freedom of movement for reasons I have already expounded on before but I want us free of any legislative powers held outside of the Uk. Happy for the EU to sell us what they want, as long as it is reciprocated and even willing to see certain products given favourable status, ideally for Ireland, but ultimately ALL power back in Westminster.

But we will see.

Today I am chuffed. Tomorrow....lets see.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

You have avoided the main points, but a fair answer to the last paragraph.

I'm not sure how anyone, even as a leaver, can be 'chuffed' at the state of this. 'Clearer of mind' might be more appropriate, with the sauron issue now sort of out of the way. Maybe now partisans on both sides can actually start looking at the bigger picture as well.

Finally, I do not think that 'all leavers are stupid'. I have no exclusivity on idiots or morons, of which 95% of people are. So by extension...

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

The north remembers.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

But what happened was there was a one issue election. I don't ever remember such a thing before. Better for them to have forced a referendum instead.

Remainers put it down to Corbyn.

Corbyn supporters put it down to Brexit.

Everyone else puts it down to both, even candidates and campaigners in labour heartland that fell to the conservatives. They want brexit AND don’t like Corbyn.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (13 Dec 2019 12.55pm)

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