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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Dec 19 11.46pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Never thought I would be a kindred spirit with you. Other than the sex obvs. See you in five years, lads You’ll be doing 15.
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Matov 12 Dec 19 11.47pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
I’m on the bridge. Cold out here. LOL. My bad. Apologies.
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DanH SW2 12 Dec 19 11.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Don't jump Dan live to fight another day. Labour need to re-group and think about what has happened. Was it their confused position on Brexit or did their policies frighten the electorate? I don't claim to know but they need to do some thinking we always need a strong opposition. Corbyn was never going to win an election or even get close to a majority. Never been his biggest fan and think he did get a bit of a tough ride from the press compared to BJ but he was never the answer. Still, tough to see where Labour go after this and didn’t quite see it being *this* decisive. Nervous about what is going to happen next though. BJ and his front bench really are charlatans.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Dec 19 11.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
First 3 results in and going in line with the BBC prediction. The turnout doesn't seem great for all 3 seats it was in the mid sixties percent. So who stayed home? Labour? Is this the pattern for the night a lowish turnout? I’d guess the younger voters returned back to not bothering more. Maybe felt their x didn’t mean something specific, well it did actually. A few specific things. Well one and not one of the two directions, but not a specific idea of the one you’re voting on because both or all sides were blatantly lying.
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Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 11.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Don't jump Dan live to fight another day. Labour need to re-group and think about what has happened. Was it their confused position on Brexit or did their policies frighten the electorate? I don't claim to know but they need to do some thinking we always need a strong opposition. I think their complete non position on Brexit hurt them, but I can see how it came about due to the Tory and Lib Dem stances. That and Corbyn himself. Part of that is definitely his fault and part was how he was portrayed. Some of their policies beyond the gimmicky ones were decent, but this was the Brexit election. At least next election the public will be clear, one way or another, on how they feel about being out of the EU, and so the election should be more policy focused for once.
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DanH SW2 12 Dec 19 11.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
LOL. My bad. Apologies. Think your economic predictions are going to come true now by the way.
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Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 11.54pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Corbyn was never going to win an election or even get close to a majority. Never been his biggest fan and think he did get a bit of a tough ride from the press compared to BJ but he was never the answer. Still, tough to see where Labour go after this and didn’t quite see it being *this* decisive. Nervous about what is going to happen next though. BJ and his front bench really are charlatans. With any other leader, they'd have done better. Though I suppose due to the magnitude of the win they'd have still very likely lost. Brexit loomed over the election and so we're seeing lots of constituency results that once offs in nature.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Dec 19 11.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Don't jump Dan live to fight another day. Labour need to re-group and think about what has happened. Was it their confused position on Brexit or did their policies frighten the electorate? I don't claim to know but they need to do some thinking we always need a strong opposition. When DanH is the same age he thinks is the average Hol politics forum then he’ll have his wish of a socialist or even worse government. Not many on here today will care that much or be able to while dribbling down their plastic bib, staring into the laptop while sat in men’s disposable pants, stinking of p1ss in the corner of the care home communal room. Enjoy the last few decades of sanity, in all ways.
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Matov 12 Dec 19 11.57pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Still, tough to see where Labour go after this and didn’t quite see it being *this* decisive.
Labour have a catch 22 situation with regards to how they elect their leaders now. Voting by text message is not the best of ideas. The issue is how much have Momentum got their claws into the wider party. My initial thoughts are that the Trade Unions are the ones who need to step out now and insist on a change or else they withdraw funding. Len McClusky is probably their best bet but how that pans out....anybody's guess.
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DanH SW2 12 Dec 19 11.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
When DanH is the same age he thinks is the average Hol politics forum then he’ll have his wish of a socialist or even worse government. Not many on here today will care that much or be able to while dribbling down their plastic bib, staring into the laptop while sat in men’s disposable pants, stinking of p1ss in the corner of the care home communal room. Enjoy the last few decades of sanity, in all ways.
You have seen Cucking tonight then. Been on the election night booze too?
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DanH SW2 13 Dec 19 12.00am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
Labour have a catch 22 situation with regards to how they elect their leaders now. Voting by text message is not the best of ideas. The issue is how much have Momentum got their claws into the wider party. My initial thoughts are that the Trade Unions are the ones who need to step out now and insist on a change or else they withdraw funding. Len McClusky is probably their best bet but how that pans out....anybody's guess. If the exit polls reflect the results, and don’t see why they won’t, if Labour ever want to be elected again they need a shift back towards the centre and a leader who appeals. I still don’t get why BJ appeals to people that would otherwise vote Labour but that means I’m part of the problem.
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Matov 13 Dec 19 12.05am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
It is Brexit. As simple as that. I am f***ing boring about it but just the constituency break down of the Brexit vote and the Euro's told the picture. Anybody who thought a second referendum was a good idea is the problem. Possibly the worse of all options.
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