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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Dec 20 3.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I don't think anyone has campaigned for referees to be consistently making the same bad decisions Willo. I am sure if the resources were available we could identify 100 similar instances this season alone where a yellow card was not produced and therefore there is no consistency. Furthermore, another litmus test for consistency will be if he continues to brandish yellow cards and resultant reds for any player who jumps with a raised arm to win headers.. which I doubt. His next appointment as a referee is on Boxing Day when he is in the middle for Sheff Utd v Everton. In the W.Ham game it is apparent that Coote viewed Benteke's arm movements as flailing arms across the face of opposition players and deemed the incidents as worthy of 'Yellows'.
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Eaglecoops CR3 18 Dec 20 3.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
With respect he does not always defend the decisions. Apropos the Benteke cards, he echoed my comments about consistency shown by David Coote in brandishing cards for two identical incidents.Of course there are those who have taken umbrage at his decisions but he certainly was consistent. I understand what you are saying. My point is there should be consistency across all referees, not one referee consistently making a poor decision. The argument in favour of consistency really doesn’t pass muster in such circumstances.
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Dec 20 4.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
I understand what you are saying. My point is there should be consistency across all referees, not one referee consistently making a poor decision. The argument in favour of consistency really doesn’t pass muster in such circumstances. EC, dont get me wrong, but like you, i also understand what Willo is on about. Now, you will NEVER get consistency from 2 refs never mind All refs. I keep trying to educate posters, that there is a phrase in Law 12 that states "IF IN THE REFEREES OPINION" thats it. If 1 ref thinks its a foul/caution, he will give it, on the other hand, another ref might think differently & not give it. This btw, has nothing to do with 'big 6' bias, refs like players, fans, managers etc, are just human. When people can grasp that, convos will be more interesting & not meander round & round in circles like the 'Taking the knee' thread.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Dec 20 4.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
I understand what you are saying. My point is there should be consistency across all referees, not one referee consistently making a poor decision. The argument in favour of consistency really doesn’t pass muster in such circumstances. When referees have to make a plethora of subjective decisions on incidents that might appear identical but are often nuanced it is understandable that the 'Consistency' debate rages.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 18 Dec 20 4.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
His next appointment as a referee is on Boxing Day when he is in the middle for Sheff Utd v Everton. In the W.Ham game it is apparent that Coote viewed Benteke's arm movements as flailing arms across the face of opposition players and deemed the incidents as worthy of 'Yellows'. I shall watch with intense scrutiny!
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Gary St.Andrews Kenley 18 Dec 20 5.11pm | |
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You can bet your life that there will be similar challenges this weekend in the Premiership where a yellow card will not be brandished.
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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 18 Dec 20 7.38pm | |
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Just annoyed that as a result of the two yellows he will miss the Liverpool game. Sure he would have been well up for it !
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Dec 20 8.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I don't think anyone has campaigned for referees to be consistently making the same bad decisions Willo. I am sure if the resources were available we could identify 100 similar instances this season alone where a yellow card was not produced and therefore there is no consistency. Furthermore, another litmus test for consistency will be if he continues to brandish yellow cards and resultant reds for any player who jumps with a raised arm to win headers.. which I doubt.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 18 Dec 20 10.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
As the 'Red' was a result of 2 'Yellows' he is only suspended for the Liverpool game. Ah, thats good, and the villa game is on the tv on boxing day, not to bad, although i think he could have done well tomorrow.
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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 19 Dec 20 9.49am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
With respect he does not always defend the decisions. Apropos the Benteke cards, he echoed my comments about consistency shown by David Coote in brandishing cards for two identical incidents.Of course there are those who have taken umbrage at his decisions but he certainly was consistent. Can you point out an occasion when he said 'the referee was wrong'....dont think you can!!
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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 19 Dec 20 9.52am | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
EC, dont get me wrong, but like you, i also understand what Willo is on about. Now, you will NEVER get consistency from 2 refs never mind All refs. I keep trying to educate posters, that there is a phrase in Law 12 that states "IF IN THE REFEREES OPINION" thats it. If 1 ref thinks its a foul/caution, he will give it, on the other hand, another ref might think differently & not give it. This btw, has nothing to do with 'big 6' bias, refs like players, fans, managers etc, are just human. When people can grasp that, convos will be more interesting & not meander round & round in circles like the 'Taking the knee' thread.
they just come from a different planet...and are allowed to cheat/show bias as much as they like....watch Kane in his next match, does what Benteke did all game NEVER gets even a yellow...oh wait, he plays for a big club/is England captain Edited by the silurian (19 Dec 2020 9.54am)
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Dec 20 10.12am | |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Can you point out an occasion when he said 'the referee was wrong'....dont think you can!! I admit I don't witness every "Ref Watch".
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