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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 31 Jul 15 4.57pm | |
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Quote A bakery in Northern Ireland (where same sex marriage is illegal) was prosecuted for refusing to produce a cake in support of same sex marriage. It therefore appears that gay rights extend to forcing people to express support for something that is in itself illegal.
If you open a business you open it to everyone. Interesting how people who probably wouldn't dare come on expressing racist opinions are happy to express homophobic ones. Why is that?
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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 31 Jul 15 5.01pm | |
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
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ghosteagle 31 Jul 15 5.20pm | |
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
A refreshing honest post. No matter the evidence fed-up will never change his views. Classic!
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leggedstruggle Croydon 31 Jul 15 5.23pm | |
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Quote Sedlescombe at 31 Jul 2015 4.57pm
Quote A bakery in Northern Ireland (where same sex marriage is illegal) was prosecuted for refusing to produce a cake in support of same sex marriage. It therefore appears that gay rights extend to forcing people to express support for something that is in itself illegal.
If you open a business you open it to everyone. Interesting how people who probably wouldn't dare come on expressing racist opinions are happy to express homophobic ones. Why is that? They were asked to put wording on the cake of 'support same sex marriage'. Same sex marriage is not legal in Northern Ireland where the bakery is. It appears now that people have to pander to minority 'rights' where the particular 'right' in question is not in fact legal. The bakery did not of course discriminate because the person asking for the cake was gay, they objected to the cake wording, and would have objected if the customer had been heterosexual. Interesting that the usual casual implications that someone is racist or homophobic are made by some people when views are expressed that they disagree with.
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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 31 Jul 15 5.36pm | |
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
A refreshing honest post. No matter the evidence fed-up will never change his views. Classic!
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ghosteagle 31 Jul 15 5.45pm | |
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
A refreshing honest post. No matter the evidence fed-up will never change his views. Classic!
That’s just about the most arrogant thing i think you could have said. You also seem to hold a special contempt for people who do research, read and generally try and educate themselves about situations before they form a view. Says it all, and it’s a free world but i'd advise you for your own sake to try some education now and then.
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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 31 Jul 15 5.46pm | |
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
A refreshing honest post. No matter the evidence fed-up will never change his views. Classic!
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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 31 Jul 15 5.58pm | |
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
A refreshing honest post. No matter the evidence fed-up will never change his views. Classic!
That’s just about the most arrogant thing i think you could have said. You also seem to hold a special contempt for people who do research, read and generally try and educate themselves about situations before they form a view. Says it all, and it’s a free world but i'd advise you for your own sake to try some education now and then.
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ghosteagle 31 Jul 15 6.05pm | |
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
A refreshing honest post. No matter the evidence fed-up will never change his views. Classic!
That’s just about the most arrogant thing i think you could have said. You also seem to hold a special contempt for people who do research, read and generally try and educate themselves about situations before they form a view. Says it all, and it’s a free world but i'd advise you for your own sake to try some education now and then.
You clearly stated that 'ultimately i know the truth', which is both untrue and hugely conceited. I would ask how one can tell the difference between 'proper education' and propaganda but then i guess that you just 'know the truth'. I have not called you any names and would ask that you refrain from making up lies about posters to detract from your lack of logical reasoning. You are entitled to be confident in your views, but your claims for ownership of truth are misplaced and a little silly. I hope for your sake that you can learn to be a little more open minded and then you might possibly be able to contribute to debates in a meaningful way.
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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 31 Jul 15 6.24pm | |
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
A refreshing honest post. No matter the evidence fed-up will never change his views. Classic!
That’s just about the most arrogant thing i think you could have said. You also seem to hold a special contempt for people who do research, read and generally try and educate themselves about situations before they form a view. Says it all, and it’s a free world but i'd advise you for your own sake to try some education now and then.
You clearly stated that 'ultimately i know the truth', which is both untrue and hugely conceited. I would ask how one can tell the difference between 'proper education' and propaganda but then i guess that you just 'know the truth'. I have not called you any names and would ask that you refrain from making up lies about posters to detract from your lack of logical reasoning. You are entitled to be confident in your views, but your claims for ownership of truth are misplaced and a little silly. I hope for your sake that you can learn to be a little more open minded and then you might possibly be able to contribute to debates in a meaningful way.
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ghosteagle 31 Jul 15 6.36pm | |
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
A refreshing honest post. No matter the evidence fed-up will never change his views. Classic!
That’s just about the most arrogant thing i think you could have said. You also seem to hold a special contempt for people who do research, read and generally try and educate themselves about situations before they form a view. Says it all, and it’s a free world but i'd advise you for your own sake to try some education now and then.
You clearly stated that 'ultimately i know the truth', which is both untrue and hugely conceited. I would ask how one can tell the difference between 'proper education' and propaganda but then i guess that you just 'know the truth'. I have not called you any names and would ask that you refrain from making up lies about posters to detract from your lack of logical reasoning. You are entitled to be confident in your views, but your claims for ownership of truth are misplaced and a little silly. I hope for your sake that you can learn to be a little more open minded and then you might possibly be able to contribute to debates in a meaningful way.
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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 31 Jul 15 7.09pm | |
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
A refreshing honest post. No matter the evidence fed-up will never change his views. Classic!
That’s just about the most arrogant thing i think you could have said. You also seem to hold a special contempt for people who do research, read and generally try and educate themselves about situations before they form a view. Says it all, and it’s a free world but i'd advise you for your own sake to try some education now and then.
You clearly stated that 'ultimately i know the truth', which is both untrue and hugely conceited. I would ask how one can tell the difference between 'proper education' and propaganda but then i guess that you just 'know the truth'. I have not called you any names and would ask that you refrain from making up lies about posters to detract from your lack of logical reasoning. You are entitled to be confident in your views, but your claims for ownership of truth are misplaced and a little silly. I hope for your sake that you can learn to be a little more open minded and then you might possibly be able to contribute to debates in a meaningful way.
The whole point of someones view is it's exactly that. It doesn't need to be backed up because it is a view. If you choose to see it that I have stated it as fact then that is your choice. My mind is perfectly open to sensible views and debate. I would say your mind is the one that is closed as if the view isn't of a left wing variety then it bares no weight with you.
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