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 Matov  12 Dec 19 10.21pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I will celebrate when the results are in but it looks like Labour will pay for their Brexit betrayal. Bye bye Jeremy.
But as soon as Labour backed a second referendum they were in the s***. Utter insanity given the constituency break down of Brexit and the Euro elections. And those second ref w***ers are meant to be the smart ones?
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| Stirlingsays 12 Dec 19 10.23pm |
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John McDonnell being quite impressively gracious on the BBC there.
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| Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 10.24pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
But as soon as Labour backed a second referendum they were in the s***. Utter insanity given the constituency break down of Brexit and the Euro elections. And those second ref w***ers are meant to be the smart ones? Yes, like you said before I did feel bad for Corbyn on this count. He was essentially in an impossible position on Brexit.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 12 Dec 19 10.24pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Seems to illustrate just how important political personalities are within the election process......May just couldn't inspire any 'floating voters' to vote for her whereas Johnson has that star quality appeal to the normies. It might also have something to do with two far left w***ers heading their campaign and stopping a democratic decision from being realised.
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| Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 10.24pm |
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the exit poll suggests a 46% Tory vote
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Dec 19 10.26pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
John McDonnell being quite impressively gracious on the BBC there. He still thinks Labour's swing to the left has nothing to do with it. Deluded.
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| Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 10.28pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Seems to illustrate just how important political personalities are within the election process......May just couldn't inspire any 'floating voters' to vote for her whereas Johnson has that star quality appeal to the normies. That's a good point. I do think Corbyn received fairly horrendous negative press coverage across the board really, but the added aspect of Boris being an eccentric character and larger than life figure, does paint a certain narrative. The problem with May is that due to her awkward nature it made it hard to really be a cheerleader for her.
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| Matov 12 Dec 19 10.28pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Yes, like you said before I did feel bad for Corbyn on this count. He was essentially in an impossible position on Brexit.
But backing a second referendum was insanity for them. Absolute lunancy.
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| Matov 12 Dec 19 10.30pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
That's a good point. I do think Corbyn received fairly horrendous negative press coverage across the board really, but the added aspect of Boris being an eccentric character and larger than life figure, does paint a certain narrative. The problem with May is that due to her awkward nature it made it hard to really be a cheerleader for her. Johnson beat Livingstone. Twice. In London. I despise the man and only backed him because of Brexit but he does have something about him that enables him to beat real lefies. How he might have done against a Blair like character, a different story.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Dec 19 10.33pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It might also have something to do with two far left w***ers heading their campaign and stopping a democratic decision from being realised.
I think those two would have been quite happy to wave bye bye to the EU....it's was their party. Still, all the better for us.
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| Spiderman Horsham 12 Dec 19 10.33pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
the exit poll suggests a 46% Tory vote Won't be enough for Wissie to accept
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| Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 10.33pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
He still thinks Labour's swing to the left has nothing to do with it. Deluded. I think the party itself was too torn on Brexit for a coherent message to be made. Even the toris had to have something akin to a cull during their internal brexit battles when it was far less of an issue for the party. The good thing going forward is that there is no ambiguity now. It's a thumping majority and so there are no excuses. If Boris makes a success of it, he's sitting pretty, if he f***s it up then the oppsite. I think long term it'll be a relief for people to move beyond one issue politics.
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