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Uphill Bedford 11 Jul 21 11.00am
Wilf has always been our Talisman - statistically we do better with him playing. With Eze out until next year and Olise not proven we need his flair and hopefully he'll be revitalised by the new manager's positive tactics. The last manager was a negative influence and I am hoping Vieira will persuade him to stay and give him the boost he needs. That's the best bet for him (and for us) Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders
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Bedford 11 Jul 21 11.00am

Wilf has always been our Talisman - statistically we do better with him playing.

With Eze out until next year and Olise not proven we need his flair and hopefully he'll be revitalised by the new manager's positive tactics.

The last manager was a negative influence and I am hoping Vieira will persuade him to stay and give him the boost he needs.

That's the best bet for him (and for us)

Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 11 Jul 21 12.30pm
Originally posted by Uphill Wilf has always been our Talisman - statistically we do better with him playing. With Eze out until next year and Olise not proven we need his flair and hopefully he'll be revitalised by the new manager's positive tactics. The last manager was a negative influence and I am hoping Vieira will persuade him to stay and give him the boost he needs. That's the best bet for him (and for us) And therein lies our problem. I am wondering whether PV, DF and SP are looking to create a squad which will reduce or even remove our reliance on Wilf. IMO we desperately need that to happen. With (say) 4 or 5 new players in the 1st team we could create a group that doesn't become mentally ham-stringed when Wilf isn't playing.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 11 Jul 21 12.30pm

Originally posted by Uphill

Wilf has always been our Talisman - statistically we do better with him playing.

With Eze out until next year and Olise not proven we need his flair and hopefully he'll be revitalised by the new manager's positive tactics.

The last manager was a negative influence and I am hoping Vieira will persuade him to stay and give him the boost he needs.

That's the best bet for him (and for us)

And therein lies our problem. I am wondering whether PV, DF and SP are looking to create a squad which will reduce or even remove our reliance on Wilf. IMO we desperately need that to happen. With (say) 4 or 5 new players in the 1st team we could create a group that doesn't become mentally ham-stringed when Wilf isn't playing.

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Putitout Oxford 11 Jul 21 12.38pm
Originally posted by Painter Just wondering how you know Vieiras view on the situation, has he publically commented. I did say , “ he doesn’t seem the sort”. That doesn’t infer I know beyond any doubt.
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Putitout

Oxford 11 Jul 21 12.38pm

Originally posted by Painter

Just wondering how you know Vieiras view on the situation, has he publically commented.

I did say , “ he doesn’t seem the sort”. That doesn’t infer I know beyond any doubt.

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Mwncisee Middlesbrough 11 Jul 21 12.44pm
I think the reality is we have pout ourselves in a good position. If no clubs come in for Wilf and he stays with us I'm happy. If he does go there are two very strong contributing factors to why its not the end of the world. Unlike previous seasons when we were so reliant on Wilf the introduction off the likes of Eze last season shows we are not as reliant on Wilf as we were. In the past it was worth turning down less than 80mill as there was a strong argument it was worth that o the club to keep him (i.e not be relegated). Even with no Wilf we have a strong enough squad not to be relegated. We have already signed a potential replacement for Wilf in Olise. Not as good no and unproven but importantly we signed Olise before Wilf has gone means we are not being held to ransom by other clubs and thus paying over the odds out of desperation. For the first summer in ages I'm pretty chilled about the Wilf situation. Honestly I think an offer of 40mill+ and we let him go, anything less than that we can say no and keep him for the remaining 2 years on his contract and him go at the end for free if he wants to. Edited by Mwncisee (11 Jul 2021 12.44pm)
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Middlesbrough 11 Jul 21 12.44pm

I think the reality is we have pout ourselves in a good position.

If no clubs come in for Wilf and he stays with us I'm happy.

If he does go there are two very strong contributing factors to why its not the end of the world.

Unlike previous seasons when we were so reliant on Wilf the introduction off the likes of Eze last season shows we are not as reliant on Wilf as we were. In the past it was worth turning down less than 80mill as there was a strong argument it was worth that o the club to keep him (i.e not be relegated). Even with no Wilf we have a strong enough squad not to be relegated.

We have already signed a potential replacement for Wilf in Olise. Not as good no and unproven but importantly we signed Olise before Wilf has gone means we are not being held to ransom by other clubs and thus paying over the odds out of desperation.

For the first summer in ages I'm pretty chilled about the Wilf situation. Honestly I think an offer of 40mill+ and we let him go, anything less than that we can say no and keep him for the remaining 2 years on his contract and him go at the end for free if he wants to.

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Putitout Oxford 11 Jul 21 12.48pm
Originally posted by doombear And therein lies our problem. I am wondering whether PV, DF and SP are looking to create a squad which will reduce or even remove our reliance on Wilf. IMO we desperately need that to happen. With (say) 4 or 5 new players in the 1st team we could create a group that doesn't become mentally ham-stringed when Wilf isn't playing. I agree . I really think this is the time to change course, It’s always a team game, and my feeling is we should now be looking to develop without a Wilf , that doesn’t even really want to be in the team. Wilf .has been fantastic for Palace, but he wants to move on ,we should to. It would be fantastic again if Wilf, actually wanted to be part of a new era of a youthful progressive Palace,, but he doesn’t actually want that or he would not keep advertising his wish to be available for pastures ,he thinks , greener than ours.
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Putitout

Oxford 11 Jul 21 12.48pm

Originally posted by doombear

I agree . I really think this is the time to change course, It’s always a team game, and my feeling is we should now be looking to develop without a Wilf , that doesn’t even really want to be in the team.
Wilf .has been fantastic for Palace, but he wants to move on ,we should to.
It would be fantastic again if Wilf, actually wanted to be part of a new era of a youthful progressive Palace,, but he doesn’t actually want that or he would not keep advertising his wish to be available for pastures ,he thinks , greener than ours.

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BlueJay UK 11 Jul 21 12.52pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad I would be surprised if any big club will buy him, his age, form and temperament put them off, the best he can hope for is a club similar to us, i would say his value is about 25m max I honestly think if he moved he'd soon be dissatisfied again anyway and that clubs realise that. He'll probably just end up staying and moaning. The boy who cried wolf!
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BlueJay

UK 11 Jul 21 12.52pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I would be surprised if any big club will buy him, his age, form and temperament put them off, the best he can hope for is a club similar to us, i would say his value is about 25m max

I honestly think if he moved he'd soon be dissatisfied again anyway and that clubs realise that. He'll probably just end up staying and moaning. The boy who cried wolf!

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Palace in the Blood 11 Jul 21 12.56pm
Originally posted by Mwncisee I think the reality is we have pout ourselves in a good position. If no clubs come in for Wilf and he stays with us I'm happy. If he does go there are two very strong contributing factors to why its not the end of the world. Unlike previous seasons when we were so reliant on Wilf the introduction off the likes of Eze last season shows we are not as reliant on Wilf as we were. In the past it was worth turning down less than 80mill as there was a strong argument it was worth that o the club to keep him (i.e not be relegated). Even with no Wilf we have a strong enough squad not to be relegated. We have already signed a potential replacement for Wilf in Olise. Not as good no and unproven but importantly we signed Olise before Wilf has gone means we are not being held to ransom by other clubs and thus paying over the odds out of desperation. For the first summer in ages I'm pretty chilled about the Wilf situation. Honestly I think an offer of 40mill+ and we let him go, anything less than that we can say no and keep him for the remaining 2 years on his contract and him go at the end for free if he wants to. Edited by Mwncisee (11 Jul 2021 12.44pm) I fully agree with you. It looks like we are looking at players who can play in Wilf's position. This will give a number of pluses. Firstly if he does go we have replacements already. Secondly Wilf will have competition and to keep his place will have to perform. Thirdly the constant Wilf wants to leave statements from him or his representatives will reduce as he can no longer hold us to ransom. Lastly our reliance on one man will reduce and we will become more than a one man team Edited by Palace in the Blood (11 Jul 2021 12.56pm)
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Originally posted by Mwncisee

I think the reality is we have pout ourselves in a good position.

If no clubs come in for Wilf and he stays with us I'm happy.

If he does go there are two very strong contributing factors to why its not the end of the world.

Edited by Mwncisee (11 Jul 2021 12.44pm)

I fully agree with you. It looks like we are looking at players who can play in Wilf's position. This will give a number of pluses.
Firstly if he does go we have replacements already.
Secondly Wilf will have competition and to keep his place will have to perform.
Thirdly the constant Wilf wants to leave statements from him or his representatives will reduce as he can no longer hold us to ransom.
Lastly our reliance on one man will reduce and we will become more than a one man team

Edited by Palace in the Blood (11 Jul 2021 12.56pm)

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 11 Jul 21 1.32pm
Its Wilf Greed that is holding him back, Nobody put a gun against his head and said you must sign, He took the 5 year contract and the 34million plus signing on fee, with no buy out clause, and still moans, i think the phrase Cake and eat it sums it up. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 11 Jul 21 1.32pm

Its Wilf Greed that is holding him back, Nobody put a gun against his head and said you must sign, He took the 5 year contract and the 34million plus signing on fee, with no buy out clause, and still moans, i think the phrase Cake and eat it sums it up.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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beak croydon 11 Jul 21 3.16pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Its Wilf Greed that is holding him back, Nobody put a gun against his head and said you must sign, He took the 5 year contract and the 34million plus signing on fee, with no buy out clause, and still moans, i think the phrase Cake and eat it sums it up. He needs to get on his bike double quick before he stinks out his "legend" status anymore.
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beak

croydon 11 Jul 21 3.16pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

He needs to get on his bike double quick before he stinks out his "legend" status anymore.

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Den1923 11 Jul 21 3.27pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad I would be surprised if any big club will buy him, his age, form and temperament put them off, the best he can hope for is a club similar to us, i would say his value is about 25m max [Link]
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Den1923

11 Jul 21 3.27pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I would be surprised if any big club will buy him, his age, form and temperament put them off, the best he can hope for is a club similar to us, i would say his value is about 25m max

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 11 Jul 21 5.15pm
Originally posted by Den1923 [Link] Nobody will pay 40m and match his salary, nobody “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 11 Jul 21 5.15pm

Originally posted by Den1923

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Nobody will pay 40m and match his salary, nobody

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Den1923 11 Jul 21 5.17pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Nobody will pay 40m and match his salary, nobody I'm not saying they will but SP is unlikely to let him go for less!
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Den1923

11 Jul 21 5.17pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Nobody will pay 40m and match his salary, nobody

I'm not saying they will but SP is unlikely to let him go for less!

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