The first incident was actually exactly the same as it hit his arm below the shirt when deliberately keeping his arm out of the way, but technically if the second one was a foul then that first one was too surely, the the rules say if the ball hits the arm and it did very clearly, but the ref decided it wasn't a foul, so what on earth made him decide the second was when quite clearly his arm was just where an arm should be when having an arm there, what did the ref want Mr Ward to do with his arm to deem it not a foul I wonder, mr Friend had the decision because he decided the first, so he was at fault for the second for giving it, nothing to do with VAR.

Apparently that is what Antony Taylor advised Friend, what is a natural position for a defender then?

Hopefully yesterday should close any chance of Zaha leaving. I really hope he stays this season.

If fans were back these new VAR rules which are ruining the game would be causing riots in the stadiums. Can you imagine last week at United that penalty incident. Even though I believe it was all correct, there would have been a riot at Old Trafford over that. The game had restarted then it was called back for a re take. Although good for us, what a joke. Then yesterday’s decision that was so clearly NOT a penalty. Imagine the Palace faithful. It would have kicked off.

A question. To me, when Ward did his handball, the centre forward looked offside. (I've not double checked).

If that was the case, what are the rules? I mean, clearly, if Ward was cheating (he wasn't) then it was to stop the ball reaching an offside player.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

If the ball had hit any other part of Joel Ward then he would have played the striker on-side. So the handball trumps the offside.