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becky Flag over the moon 06 May 17 10.44am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Are you suggesting May made her "mistake' on purpose Becky?

Read the post again. What I am saying is that Diane Abbott definitely did do what the photo says, and actually more because it wasn't only 80 million or 300 million but about 3 other figures as well, whereas Teresa May almost certainly was not personally responsible for 'losing' 114 files.

So, my reply to nick's question was that it is wrong.

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 06 May 17 11.04am Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

She said: “The people that complain about the freedom of movement will not be satisfied because what they really want is to see less foreign-looking people on their streets.”

If that's racist,so are a fair number of the posts for certain posters on here...

I don't think its racist,"foreign looking" doesn't equate to people of a different race...she could be talking about Poles or Romanians,as some of our friends on here often do and then say they are not racist because they are discriminating on grounds of ethnicity rather than race.

She is also clearly not saying that people against freedom of movement are of this view,not people of a particular race...

Sop,she may be over generalising,she may be right (or wrong) but she wasn't being racist..

Amazing how some people try to focus debate back by knocking Abbott rather than face up to the plain racism alive and well within our society.

Edited by legaleagle (06 May 2017 10.10am)

Not what is amazing that people like you deny that she has said racist comments..what about the nurses from Finland, if that was someone other than from your beloved left wing you would be all over it racist this racist that.....That's what f***s people off the sheer hypocrisy.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 May 17 11.30am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

She said: “The people that complain about the freedom of movement will not be satisfied because what they really want is to see less foreign-looking people on their streets.”

If that's racist,so are a fair number of the posts for certain posters on here...

I don't think its racist,"foreign looking" doesn't equate to people of a different race...she could be talking about Poles or Romanians,as some of our friends on here often do and then say they are not racist because they are discriminating on grounds of ethnicity rather than race.

She is also clearly not saying that people against freedom of movement are of this view,not people of a particular race...

Sop,she may be over generalising,she may be right (or wrong) but she wasn't being racist..

Amazing how some people try to focus debate back by knocking Abbott rather than face up to the plain racism alive and well within our society.

Edited by legaleagle (06 May 2017 10.10am)

So Abbot's previous statements about nurses and white people aren't 'racist'?
I shall judge your future comments accordingly.

Total hypocrisy. Surprise surprise.

 

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Part Time James Flag 06 May 17 12.02pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Abbott in rare moment of clarity shocker. Replace "The" at the start of her quote with "A sizeable minority" and she's bang on the money, isn't she?

I feel dirty.

Think she meant "fewer" if she was talking about quantity. Unless she genuinely meant we want foreign looking people but slightly less foreign looking. Perhaps Mexicans with the big hats but the moustache would be over the top?

 




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Sportyteacher Flag London 06 May 17 12.07pm Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Not wrong is it?

This says everything you need to know about corporate tax-avoiding right wing media influence within press at present and how the substantially larger misdemeanours and incompetences (and criminal behaviour) are all being conveniently swept under the carpet. Let's see how they behave with CPS publication of investigation into Tory spending claims from previous general election that is due out early June:

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legaleagle Flag 06 May 17 12.12pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Not what is amazing that people like you deny that she has said racist comments..what about the nurses from Finland, if that was someone other than from your beloved left wing you would be all over it racist this racist that.....That's what f***s people off the sheer hypocrisy.

I was not aware re nurses from Finland.I have looked it up now:That was well dodgy.

But,it doesn't make my argument any less pertinent about those who bang on constantly about immigrants but are always looking to turn the other cheek about the barrage of racism directed towards immigrants."that's what f***s people off the sheer hypocrisy".

There are any number of dickhead politicians out there,take Nuttall as one,the leader of a party some "concerned about immigrants" posters on here have a lot of time for.But,they post barely a word about him but spend much time frothing about Abbott.Why could that be? Maybe they just don't like her fashion sense?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 May 17 12.31pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

I was not aware re nurses from Finland.I have looked it up now:That was well dodgy.

But,it doesn't make my argument any less pertinent about those who bang on constantly about immigrants but are always looking to turn the other cheek about the barrage of racism directed towards immigrants."that's what f***s people off the sheer hypocrisy".

There are any number of dickhead politicians out there,take Nuttall as one,the leader of a party some "concerned about immigrants" posters on here have a lot of time for.But,they post barely a word about him but spend much time frothing about Abbott.Why could that be? Maybe they just don't like her fashion sense?

I would say that the idea that people want to see 'less foreign looking people' is reductionism and self serving rhetoric of the extreme kind.
People want a vast reduction in immigration for a whole variety of valid reasons.
This is just the 'Brexiters are racist' narrative being peddled by someone who has previously made racist statements herself.
You gotta laugh at the left and their minorities agenda.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 06 May 17 12.37pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

I was not aware re nurses from Finland.I have looked it up now:That was well dodgy.

But,it doesn't make my argument any less pertinent about those who bang on constantly about immigrants but are always looking to turn the other cheek about the barrage of racism directed towards immigrants."that's what f***s people off the sheer hypocrisy".

There are any number of dickhead politicians out there,take Nuttall as one,the leader of a party some "concerned about immigrants" posters on here have a lot of time for.But,they post barely a word about him but spend much time frothing about Abbott.Why could that be? Maybe they just don't like her fashion sense?

Abbot is a member of the elite who has made a career about race...ie her race helps her win Hackney. She gets away with it as the 'progressive' wing of the Labour party (most of it now) protects her....because that's the home of identity politics and victim culture.

She doesn't really care about the working classes though...Not when you look at her actions...I bet if she was in a room with them for more than five minutes she'd be looking for the exit.....I'll give it to Corbyn, misguided as he is on some things, he does actually give a monkeys about the working class.

What racism directed towards immigrants? Sure I have no doubt there is some but do you have any examples?


Edited by Stirlingsays (06 May 2017 12.38pm)

 


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legaleagle Flag 06 May 17 2.36pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I would say that the idea that people want to see 'less foreign looking people' is reductionism and self serving rhetoric of the extreme kind.
People want a vast reduction in immigration for a whole variety of valid reasons.
This is just the 'Brexiters are racist' narrative being peddled by someone who has previously made racist statements herself.
You gotta laugh at the left and their minorities agenda.


Some might say you gotta cry at Hrolf and his ilk and their "do anything but acknowledge how prejudiced they are" tunnel visioned view of the world..

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 May 17 2.40pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle


Some might say you gotta cry at Hrolf and his ilk and their "do anything but acknowledge how prejudiced they are" tunnel visioned view of the world..

And yet I'm not the one who has made 'racist' comments.

Poor attempt at diversion even by your standards.

You are, beyond a shadow of a doubt, a total hypocrite.

 

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legaleagle Flag 06 May 17 2.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Abbot is a member of the elite who has made a career about race...ie her race helps her win Hackney. She gets away with it as the 'progressive' wing of the Labour party (most of it now) protects her....because that's the home of identity politics and victim culture.

She doesn't really care about the working classes though...Not when you look at her actions...I bet if she was in a room with them for more than five minutes she'd be looking for the exit.....I'll give it to Corbyn, misguided as he is on some things, he does actually give a monkeys about the working class.

What racism directed towards immigrants? Sure I have no doubt there is some but do you have any examples?


Edited by Stirlingsays (06 May 2017 12.38pm)

You really need examples of racism towards immigrants in this country?!...blimey.

"A racist incident, according to the police, is any incident, including any crime, which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice based on a person’s ‘race’ or perceived ‘race’. In 2013/14, there were 47,571 ‘racist incidents’ recorded by the police in England and Wales. On average, that is about 130 incidents per day."

YOU GOV poll in 2015 asked UKIP voters if they had racist views:42% said yes and 28% admitted to having racist views.The people who felt attracted to the same party you voted for.

Racial prejudice in the UK? Shurely shome mishtake


And you need examples...jesus wept

PS.So her electorate in Hackney voted 55% for her because she is black (and where white people form the majority of the local population)? And there were no working class people in Hackney within the 55%?Can a black person not be a member of the working class in your promised land?

jesus wept some more

As I posted yesterday,Abbott is a hapless politician.So much worse than others who don't get our anti immigration hordes on here frothing with the same indignation.Certainly not.Take that clown Nuttall as an example.

Interesting how some on here bend over so far backwards to not unconditionally say racism against a black person is unacceptable full stop (the "she deserves everything she gets" brigade) but seem so tolerant towards the sins of "their fellow volk".

She is IMHO,notwithstanding being an awful politician,somewhat more sinned against than sinning.As I said before,must be because people don;'t like her dress sense rather than because she is a black woman.

cue much frothing from the HOL volk

Edited by legaleagle (06 May 2017 3.00pm)

 

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Originally posted by legaleagle

You really need examples of racism towards immigrants in this country?!...blimey.

"A racist incident, according to the police, is any incident, including any crime, which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice based on a person’s ‘race’ or perceived ‘race’. In 2013/14, there were 47,571 ‘racist incidents’ recorded by the police in England and Wales. On average, that is about 130 incidents per day."

YOU GOV poll in 2015 asked UKIP voters if they had racist views:42% said yes and 28% admitted to having racist views.The people who felt attracted to the same party you voted for.

Racial prejudice in the UK? Shurely shome mishtake


And you need examples...jesus wept

PS.So her electorate in Hackney voted 55% for her because she is black (and where white people form the majority of the local population)? And there were no working class people in Hackney within the 55%?Can a black person not be a member of the working class in your promised land?

jesus wept some more

And you are surprised by racial prejudice?
You think it wouldn't happen anywhere when a majority has a minority of migrants thrust upon it despite their historical opposition to that policy?
You think that friction hasn't occurred throughout history when two or more different groups are in close proximity?

You are from planet Earth aren't you?

 

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