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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Mar 17 1.51pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Not back tracking at all.....I repeat put yourself in the soldiers shoes AT THE TIME...FFS,and I have I called you silly or ignorant..no so less of the insults matey. Frankly it costs nothing to apologise as you were entirely out of order.
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elgrande bedford 26 Mar 17 1.53pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Frankly it costs nothing to apologise as you were entirely out of order. Apologise for what....or do you mean mcguinness. To late for that.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 26 Mar 17 2.00pm | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Before people get too self righteous,lets not overlook the report of the public inquiry into Bloody Sunday: "The British government Tuesday released a damning report into the 1972 Bloody Sunday massacre, placing blame overwhelmingly on the British soldiers who killed 14 people in Northern Ireland that day.
Members of the British Army fired more than 100 rounds in violation of orders issued to every British soldier serving in Northern Ireland at the time, the report found. ...report found no indication the soldiers were firing at people they thought were posing a threat or that they missed, the report said. Edited by legaleagle (26 Mar 2017 12.14pm) Of course troops were sent to Northern Ireland in the first place to protect Catholics. The IRA then attacked the troops.
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Mar 17 2.02pm | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Before people get too self righteous,lets not overlook the report of the public inquiry into Bloody Sunday: "The British government Tuesday released a damning report into the 1972 Bloody Sunday massacre, placing blame overwhelmingly on the British soldiers who killed 14 people in Northern Ireland that day.
Members of the British Army fired more than 100 rounds in violation of orders issued to every British soldier serving in Northern Ireland at the time, the report found. ...report found no indication the soldiers were firing at people they thought were posing a threat or that they missed, the report said. Edited by legaleagle (26 Mar 2017 12.14pm) It's marvelous that we have such fair minded, unbiased and even handed posters. It warms my heart.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 26 Mar 17 2.02pm | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
I don't normally talk about my work on here.But,just to show quite the degree of ignorance behind your lazy and silly jibe ,I will this time (from my dining table in S London)...I acted for an ex-para in relation to the Inquiry...went to Derry and attended it...I suspect I therefore know somewhat more about it and the feelings of the paras involved than the likes of those writing from their dining tables in Bedford Edited by legaleagle (26 Mar 2017 1.21pm) You acted for a para! I assume you mean a parachute regiment soldier rather than a paramilitary terrorist - good grief, how many years has now served in prison? I bet you were just like those 'defence' lawyers at the Moscow Show Trials.
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Mar 17 2.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's marvelous that we have such fair minded, unbiased and even handed posters. It warms my heart. The truth is just that not what we want to hear.
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elgrande bedford 26 Mar 17 2.49pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The truth is just that not what we want to hear. As you have not answered yet I will ask you again,put yourself in the boots of the soldiers at the time,how do you know how you would react.
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legaleagle 26 Mar 17 2.50pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Not back tracking at all.....I repeat put yourself in the soldiers shoes AT THE TIME...FFS,and I have I called you silly or ignorant..no so less of the insults matey. and I have been referring to what paras told me they felt at the time.Who knows better about that,them or you? Your first post "you and your like have no idea what those soldiers had in their mind the danger they must have felt.Easy to condem from the dining tables of Islington" was plain silly...trying to be clever but rebounding in on you...maybe think before trying to have a silly pop next time? Anyway,time to move on.. Edited by legaleagle (26 Mar 2017 3.00pm)
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legaleagle 26 Mar 17 2.51pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
You acted for a para! I assume you mean a parachute regiment soldier rather than a paramilitary terrorist - good grief, how many years has now served in prison? I bet you were just like those 'defence' lawyers at the Moscow Show Trials.
You,my friend, have possible made one of your most inane posting yet (no mean feat)...
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legaleagle 26 Mar 17 2.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's marvelous that we have such fair minded, unbiased and even handed posters. It warms my heart. Its from CNN,quoting directly from the conclusions of the Public Inquiry.. Its a pity some of our posters are so unfair minded,biased and non even handed,is it not
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Mar 17 2.54pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The truth is just that not what we want to hear. What truth? That conflict results in death and injury? It is interesting though that despite all the murdering of civilians, policeman and soldiers that occurred during the troubles, some always want to focus on this event in particular.
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elgrande bedford 26 Mar 17 2.55pm | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
and I have been referring to what paras told me they felt at the time.Who knows better about that,them or you? Exactly that's my point,and without reavling what he said,I'm sure it must have been something on the lines of sheer terror and confusion...if you bothered to read my first line of my first post,I stated that a lot of innocent lives were lost that day. Edited by elgrande (26 Mar 2017 2.56pm)
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