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jamiemartin721  Reading 03 May 16 1.38pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You mean some judge made a totally unscientific decision to protect Jews from harm. Jews cannot be and never will be a race by any scientific definition worth it's salt. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 May 2016 1.28pm) Well given that race has no real scientific definition of meaning or value, I pretty much agree (although one could maybe argue that by fact of the necessity of having a Jewish mother, that in fact Jewish as a racial group is better established than more traditional forms of race, such as skin colour). Quite agree otherwise, its a load of old separatist bollocks, created to justify division. We're the last of the of our genus - Homo Sapiens. We seem to be more concerned sometimes about trying to extinguish our own species, than save it.
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 johnfirewall 03 May 16 2.21pm |
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Are there 3 brackets with varying degrees of acceptabilty then? Racism Seems a disparity with those naming Sadiq Khan's unsavoury allies being accused of racism. I just can't see it all being down to Palestine despite the usual defence. Maybe Jewish people don't look foreign enough to deserve the usual minority sympathies. Edited by johnfirewall (03 May 2016 2.23pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 May 16 3.43pm |
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A letter has been sent to the Guardian news paper by leading Jewish members of the labour party : "We are Jewish members and supporters of the Labour party and of Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, who wish to put our perspective on the “antisemitism” controversy that has been widely debated in the last few weeks (Labour’s antisemitism crisis as Livingstone suspended, 29 April). We do not accept that antisemitism is “rife” in the Labour party. Of the examples that have been repeated in the media, many have been reported inaccurately, some are trivial, and a very few may be genuine examples of antisemitism. The tiny number of cases of real antisemitism need to be dealt with, but we are proud that the Labour party historically has been in the forefront of the fight against all forms of racism. We, personally, have not experienced any antisemitic prejudice in our dealings with Labour party colleagues.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 03 May 16 3.59pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Well given that race has no real scientific definition of meaning or value, I pretty much agree (although one could maybe argue that by fact of the necessity of having a Jewish mother, that in fact Jewish as a racial group is better established than more traditional forms of race, such as skin colour). Quite agree otherwise, its a load of old separatist bollocks, created to justify division. We're the last of the of our genus - Homo Sapiens. We seem to be more concerned sometimes about trying to extinguish our own species, than save it. It's a sad world and the more I see of it the more I want to contribute to separatism by separating myself from most of the human race.
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| matt_himself Matataland 03 May 16 4.00pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
A letter has been sent to the Guardian news paper by leading Jewish members of the labour party : "We are Jewish members and supporters of the Labour party and of Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, who wish to put our perspective on the “antisemitism” controversy that has been widely debated in the last few weeks (Labour’s antisemitism crisis as Livingstone suspended, 29 April). We do not accept that antisemitism is “rife” in the Labour party. Of the examples that have been repeated in the media, many have been reported inaccurately, some are trivial, and a very few may be genuine examples of antisemitism. The tiny number of cases of real antisemitism need to be dealt with, but we are proud that the Labour party historically has been in the forefront of the fight against all forms of racism. We, personally, have not experienced any antisemitic prejudice in our dealings with Labour party colleagues. Typical politics. Corbyn and McLoony have rounded up some friends, and friends of friends, to try and make the issue look less serious than it is and hope that it will vindicate their action of not taking any action about the anti semitism that is rife in their party, because taking action would piss off their core support in the Party, I.e., Muslims, ultra lefties and other assorted loons who support the destruction of Israel and appear to really hate Jews. No sale Gusset.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 03 May 16 4.05pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You mean some judge made a totally unscientific decision to protect Jews from harm. Jews cannot be and never will be a race by any scientific definition worth it's salt. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 May 2016 1.28pm) What about the Welsh?
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| johnfirewall 03 May 16 4.06pm |
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Only 1 Rabbi? Also "Margolyes is a Palestinian human rights activist" Edited by johnfirewall (03 May 2016 4.14pm)
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| Stuk Top half 03 May 16 4.08pm |
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Are there 2 people called Ray Sirotkin? I'll bet they're queuing up for Rica Bird if the name lives up to expectation. I can't find a pic from googling it though, so she can't be that much of a "leading Jewish members of the labour party"
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| matt_himself Matataland 03 May 16 4.11pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Are there 2 people called Ray Sirotkin? I'll bet they're queuing up for Rica Bird if the name lives up to expectation. I can't find a pic from googling it though, so she can't be that much of a "leading Jewish members of the labour party" Following on from your Googling, it appears that Professor John Yudkin (the last name on the list) died in 1995.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 03 May 16 4.19pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
What about the Welsh? They area bit like the Scots except with a slight odor of mutton.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 03 May 16 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
Only 1 Rabbi? Also "Margolyes is a Palestinian human rights activist" Edited by johnfirewall (03 May 2016 4.14pm) And Charles Shaar Muray is a cock, and has been since he was a journalist on NME.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 03 May 16 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
Only 1 Rabbi? Also "Margolyes is a Palestinian human rights activist" Edited by johnfirewall (03 May 2016 4.14pm) Well they also have a bishop, and a priest, so presumably the rabbi is necessary for the party punch line. In fairness, I never really understood how you could really be very left wing and religious (well at least mainstream religious), what with the opium of the masses and the general dismissal of religion in left wing theory as a means of controlling and implementing control over the working classes. I'm surprised actually that the labour party isn't more religiously sectarian, than just anti-Semitic. Well at least no one is Islamophobic in politics....
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