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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 14 Aug 15 9.22am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

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Quote leggedstruggle at 11 Aug 2015 9.37am

The language used by both the left and those on the left in the media in relation this has been very carefully chosen to justify illegal immigration, and what is going on over there, to stop any sort of public criticism in the UK for what is being fostered on the UK by those in Calais.


Quite depressing.

The incitement to racial hatred ignored by both the right and those on the right in the media in relation this has been very carefully chosen to justify racism and what is going on over there, to stop any sort of public criticism of racism in the UK for what is being fostered on the UK by those in the Media.


I'm sorry but that is the biggest pile of steaming lefty dog shyte ever to be put in type.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 14 Aug 15 9.30am

Quote fed up eagle at 13 Aug 2015 6.08pm

It's a damming indictment of our country how we treat our former serving soldiers, how some of them are just left to rot on the streets with nobody prepared to help them yet here we are hand wringing about a load of waifs and strays who haven't done anything for this country but we've got people demanding these people be let in and housed. Let's look after our own first, we have more of a duty to them than we do those in Calais.

Do you think that will happen? It certainly didn't in the past. I certainly agree that no citizen should be homeless in the UK, Soldiers or otherwise.

Its important to remember that Soldiers in the UK aren't the only people who 'risk their lives for the protection of citizens' or make sacrifices to serve the people of the UK.


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 14 Aug 15 9.33am

Quote Cucking Funt at 13 Aug 2015 10.56pm

How many childrens centres did labour close?


Not enough. F*cking brats.

Oddly, given what's been coming out in the news, closing those centers might have saved those children from being Jenner-Heath'd in Britton.


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 14 Aug 15 9.37am

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Quote Bert the Head at 13 Aug 2015 11.24pm

Quote fed up eagle at 11 Aug 2015 3.58pm

I keep hearing how the French benefits system is sooooooooo much more generous than ours. I have to say this is a new one on me, I even remember the mayor of Calais blaming the Calais migrant crisis on our ridiculously generous benefits system.
Of course I believe there is something in the argument that they have family already here which would make them want to come here, but let's face it, our benefits system is ridiculously generous. I've even seen migrants interviewed on the news and when asked why they want to come here the answer was 'britain...she give me house...she give me money. We come Britain for our house and money, thanks!'. I didn't make that up, I actually heard it said on the news. Also the fact that they've travelled across umpteen borders and hundreds and thousands of miles to get here is a dead give away as to why they want to come here. Like I say, I don't blame them for wanting to benefit from such generosity but this can't be allowed to keep happening. The politicians also need to take some of the blame here.

Either way this must stop now. There are plenty of countries in Europe who can take them. We're full and simply can't sustain this mass influx of people, and we must stop giving money away like this. We have people in this country who are British who need our help.

Our benefit system isn't really that generous if you look at it through an independent source.

Also migrants don't travel all that distance to sponge. They are not after RBS or Post office shares at a knock down price or a high rental flat to make easy money, they expect to work on minimum wage.

Isn't it a sad indictment on Capitalism that it doesn't seem to work on so many countries that so many people have t leave they're homes to make a living? Even highly skilled people from former communist countries.

What the left wing 'Independent' newspaper?

And all these victims of Capitalism are fighting their way to Socialist countries are they? Queuing up to get into North Korea and Cuba, or milder Socialist countries like France? Why aren't those from 'former Communist countries' staying where they are to build another Socialist Utopia?

Welfare payments for Asylum applicants in the UK are 36.50 a week, but in France they are around 59.00

Plus the UK takes a very low level of Asylum cases compared to the EU average, with both Germany and France taking more.

 


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legaleagle Flag 14 Aug 15 10.03am

Quote dannyh at 14 Aug 2015 9.19am


Sorry fella that is a load of sanctimonious old waffle, reflective of nothing more than your own political bias. (with just a hint of wanting to call me an out and out racist).

You talk about assumptions? like the one you make that every single immigrant running around in Nike airs bricking lorrys and ripping down fences is a poor unfortunate, who if returned to his home land, would be immediately beheaded in front of his friends and family. I know there are genuine cases but a large number are not, why do you consistently ignore that these people are getting into Britain?

The reason I mentioned Stable, what I meant was, people coming from a country, (where they are not persecuted, or beheaded for being a Christian, or gay, etc etc,) where they are just a bit on the poor side, and fancy a new house and some free money, getting it above people that have lived and possibly worked in the country for years (maybe in the forces) that are just as poor and just as homeless and in some cases more deserving as they are actually mentally ill.

Prejudiced, No. realist, Yes.

Lastly will you please climb down off your "labour are great Soap box" they are not, they are just as shyte in comming forward to help the homeless as the Torys are, so blaming a dead politician who hasn’t been in power for over twenty five years, not forgetting that your beloved Labour Party was in power for 13 of those twenty five years ( and did f*** all for the homeless as any walk down Waterloo bridge will prove) is pathetic as it is blinkered.

Tell me are you WH incarnate ?


Umm,Danny,clear the prejudice from your eyes,mate.

Most of your post is like someone who hasn't read what I actually wrote but glances at it,makes some knee jerk assumptions and and goes off on a rant about migrants and the Labout Party..

Take an example.You say:

"You talk about assumptions? like the one you make that every single immigrant running around in Nike airs bricking lorrys and ripping down fences is a poor unfortunate, who if returned to his home land, would be immediately beheaded in front of his friends and family"

Quite where I wrote that,other than in your imagination,is a mystery.Its not what I think,but don't let reality interfere with your knee jerk reactions.The same imagination that thinks I accused you of being an out and out racist.

Actually, I think ALL political parties in recent decades have not dealt with homelessness (and its causes) as they should have....I don't think "Labour have been great"...that's your assumption about anyone who thinks a little differently to you.

If I talk about present day austerity and cuts,that's valid,because that's where we are at the moment and have been for the past 5 years.

You talk about people with mental health issues.Do you have any idea how the cuts have fc*ked things up for people needing those support services? I do,from personal experience with an extended family member.That's not migrants,its cuts.If I talk about the Housing Act 1980 and the effect of it introducing the "free market" into rented housing and getting rid of rent controls,that's not historical nonsense.It is unfortunately,my friend,a reality,which anyone who really wants to help lessen homelessness ought to think about rather than just trotting out invective.

So,lets imagine no immigrants.What precisely are your policies for lessening homelessness? Are rent controls wrong? Is bring back decent legal aid to assist people like ex-service personnel wrong?Is reversing cuts to restore support services for people with mental health issues wrong?

 

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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 14 Aug 15 10.28am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 10.03am

Quote dannyh at 14 Aug 2015 9.19am


Sorry fella that is a load of sanctimonious old waffle, reflective of nothing more than your own political bias. (with just a hint of wanting to call me an out and out racist).

You talk about assumptions? like the one you make that every single immigrant running around in Nike airs bricking lorrys and ripping down fences is a poor unfortunate, who if returned to his home land, would be immediately beheaded in front of his friends and family. I know there are genuine cases but a large number are not, why do you consistently ignore that these people are getting into Britain?

The reason I mentioned Stable, what I meant was, people coming from a country, (where they are not persecuted, or beheaded for being a Christian, or gay, etc etc,) where they are just a bit on the poor side, and fancy a new house and some free money, getting it above people that have lived and possibly worked in the country for years (maybe in the forces) that are just as poor and just as homeless and in some cases more deserving as they are actually mentally ill.

Prejudiced, No. realist, Yes.

Lastly will you please climb down off your "labour are great Soap box" they are not, they are just as shyte in comming forward to help the homeless as the Torys are, so blaming a dead politician who hasn’t been in power for over twenty five years, not forgetting that your beloved Labour Party was in power for 13 of those twenty five years ( and did f*** all for the homeless as any walk down Waterloo bridge will prove) is pathetic as it is blinkered.

Tell me are you WH incarnate ?


Umm,Danny,clear the prejudice from your eyes,mate.

Boring and dim.

Most of your post is like someone who hasn't read what I actually wrote but glances at it,makes some knee jerk assumptions and and goes off on a rant about migrants and the Labout Party..

Take an example.You say:

"You talk about assumptions? like the one you make that every single immigrant running around in Nike airs bricking lorrys and ripping down fences is a poor unfortunate, who if returned to his home land, would be immediately beheaded in front of his friends and family"

Answer my question try not to belittle it, just answer it.

Quite where I wrote that,other than in your imagination,is a mystery.Its not what I think,but don't let reality interfere with your knee jerk reactions.The same imagination that thinks I accused you of being an out and out racist.

No again, what I said was I think you'd like to call me that, but instead you use the word "Prejudice", and can I ask why reality (as you call it) is exactly how you describe it, but anyone else's opinion is prejudiced,knee jerked immaginings

Actually, I think ALL political parties in recent decades have not dealt with homelessness (and its causes) as they should have....I don't think "Labour have been great"...that's your assumption about anyone who thinks a little differently to you.

Nooo again (god this is getting tiresome) You blatantly blamed Margaret Thatcher for inistigating the homeless problem, I merely pointed out she hasnt been in power for over 25 years, 13 of which labour have been in power, but essentially we agree on the homless issue I think.

If I talk about present day austerity and cuts,that's valid,because that's where we are at the moment and have been for the past 5 years.

Indeed we have, but only becuase of MASSIVE OVER SPENDING by labour, granted the world economy took a dip at around the same time, but thats not the fault of any one party, but the Torys were left holding the baby so to speak, how else wher ethey to save money, do tell perhaps there is a job for you as chancellor of the Excheqour.

You talk about people with mental health issues.Do you have any idea how the cuts have fc*ked things up for people needing those support services? I do,from personal experience with an extended family member.That's not migrants,its cuts.If I talk about the Housing Act 1980 and the effect of it introducing the "free market" into rented housing and getting rid of rent controls,that's not historical nonsense.It is unfortunately,my friend,a reality,which anyone who really wants to help lessen homelessness ought to think about rather than just trotting out invective.

Just where have I mentioned it's the migrants fault for cuts you nut case ? your begining to sound a lot like a swivel eyed lefty looney. I'm sorry you had priblems with a family member due to cuts. However I have had to deal with just about the horiiblest reason to require help from mental health services, and to behonest no complaints, but I'll take your word for it that it's the nasty Torys fault.

As for Invective ? my point was that yes your right not enough has been done to help the homless, but blamming and act from 1980, that could have been changed by either government in over 35 years is daft, But again I think we kind of agree that niether left nor right has tackled the homeless issue. So not sure what the rest of your rant was about.

So,lets imagine no immigrants.What precisely are your policies for lessening homelessness? Are rent controls wrong? Is bring back decent legal aid to assist people like ex-service personnel wrong?Is reversing cuts to restore support services for people with mental health issues wrong?

First of all, you shouldnt have to (in my opinion( require any legal advice if you are justifiabley homless. whats to argue about you either are homless or not, you cant have a box in the country and a flat in the city.

My point which one again you have overlooked massivley and accused me of pejudiced, is stop spending millions on economic immigrants, and spend it instead on building sheltered housing for the homeless. You say I'm predjudiced against what or who exactly.

Sorry about the spelling and grammar I'm in arush to get home.

 


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legaleagle Flag 14 Aug 15 10.37am

How boring and dim can a person get,Dan?

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 14 Aug 15 10.46am

Quote dannyh at 14 Aug 2015 9.22am

Quote Bert the Head at 13 Aug 2015 11.07pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 11 Aug 2015 9.37am

The language used by both the left and those on the left in the media in relation this has been very carefully chosen to justify illegal immigration, and what is going on over there, to stop any sort of public criticism in the UK for what is being fostered on the UK by those in Calais.


Quite depressing.

The incitement to racial hatred ignored by both the right and those on the right in the media in relation this has been very carefully chosen to justify racism and what is going on over there, to stop any sort of public criticism of racism in the UK for what is being fostered on the UK by those in the Media.


I'm sorry but that is the biggest pile of steaming lefty dog shyte ever to be put in type.

I'm not entirely sure that's true. The EDL and Britain First get a lot of tacit support and pass, that if they were a Muslim group would have gotten them banned under anti-terrorism laws.


 


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Quote fed up eagle at 13 Aug 2015 6.08pm

It's a damming indictment of our country how we treat our former serving soldiers, how some of them are just left to rot on the streets with nobody prepared to help them yet here we are hand wringing about a load of waifs and strays who haven't done anything for this country but we've got people demanding these people be let in and housed. Let's look after our own first, we have more of a duty to them than we do those in Calais.

Do you think that will happen? It certainly didn't in the past. I certainly agree that no citizen should be homeless in the UK, Soldiers or otherwise.

Its important to remember that Soldiers in the UK aren't the only people who 'risk their lives for the protection of citizens' or make sacrifices to serve the people of the UK.



Sadly no Jamie, I don't think it will happen.

 

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