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For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
You mean the ones who took the reservation, and then refused them the room because they were gay. That's not more rights, that's the same rights as everyone else. The beliefs of owners are not covered by free speech or expression, as a business may not discriminate in the provision of services or goods. If its a Christian only business, it should advertise itself specifically as such. As a business owner, you have legal obligations to treat customers reasonably and fairly. I have a small business, I'm a service provider, the law is pretty clear that once I engage in business or contract, my personal beliefs are not a basis for breaking that agreement, without consequence. A B+B is not a Christian organization. Its a place that offers bed and breakfast. Is the right of Sikhs to not wear crash helmets whereas non-Sikhs would be fined or banned, the "same rights as everyone else"?
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
Political correctness and personal politics (diversity) is a product of the late 1970s, stemming from Feminist theory. As for the 90s, better than the 80s, but worse than the following decade. I agree the UK has gotten better. Of course that doesn't mean prejudice ceased to exist, its just not as bad now. You're still more likely to be stopped and searched if your not white, or paid less for having the wrong genitals. Hell its only been a few years that have allowed gay couples to enjoy the same legal protections as hetrosexual couples
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
I don't think anyone is civilized.
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer.
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It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
What is pie in the sky anyway? I'm pretty sure people are more aware of social issues and attitudes have changed greatly since the 70' and 80's, or are you one of those people who think that every English person is a 'little Englander' and knuckle scraping neanderthal? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Pie in the sky is a saying that translates roughly as 'complete rubbish' or 'a made up lie'.
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For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
You mean the ones who took the reservation, and then refused them the room because they were gay. That's not more rights, that's the same rights as everyone else. The beliefs of owners are not covered by free speech or expression, as a business may not discriminate in the provision of services or goods. If its a Christian only business, it should advertise itself specifically as such. As a business owner, you have legal obligations to treat customers reasonably and fairly. I have a small business, I'm a service provider, the law is pretty clear that once I engage in business or contract, my personal beliefs are not a basis for breaking that agreement, without consequence. A B+B is not a Christian organization. Its a place that offers bed and breakfast. Is the right of Sikhs to not wear crash helmets whereas non-Sikhs would be fined or banned, the "same rights as everyone else"? Religious rights. Christian church's can dispense wine without being licensed, even to minors. I also suspect that it applies to any white Sikhs.
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For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
You mean the ones who took the reservation, and then refused them the room because they were gay. That's not more rights, that's the same rights as everyone else.
As a business owner, you have legal obligations to treat customers reasonably and fairly. I have a small business, I'm a service provider, the law is pretty clear that once I engage in business or contract, my personal beliefs are not a basis for breaking that agreement, without consequence. A B+B is not a Christian organization. Its a place that offers bed and breakfast.
Actually its not theirs entirely, its still bound by laws relating to commerce and trade. Just because you own a business, doesn't actually mean you can do what you want with it. You are expected to follow laws regarding fair trade, contract and business.
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Two random examples of why it would be smug and inappropriate to suggest that attitudes of yore have died out:
When Nelson Mandela died in 2013, a West London UKIP member wrote in the members-only forum that some people were ‘intended by nature’ to be slaves. I think the UK compared to many places is overall pretty tolerant. But,that's far from saying we should be complacent or feel smug .We have long (well before the 70's) had a not insignificant minority demonstrating precisely how well some people rubbed along together before all this "diversity nonsense".See the images below as examples.Their present day modern equivalents remain among us today.
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Two random examples of why it would be smug and inappropriate to suggest that attitudes of yore have died out:
When Nelson Mandela died in 2013, a West London UKIP member wrote in the members-only forum that some people were ‘intended by nature’ to be slaves. I think the UK compared to many places is overall pretty tolerant. But,that's far from saying we should be complacent or feel smug .We have long (well before the 70's) had a not insignificant minority demonstrating precisely how well some people rubbed along together before all this "diversity nonsense".See the images below as examples.Their present day modern equivalents remain among us today. Edited by legaleagle (31 Jul 2015 12.54am) My God - it's worse than the KKK!
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For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
You mean the ones who took the reservation, and then refused them the room because they were gay. That's not more rights, that's the same rights as everyone else. The beliefs of owners are not covered by free speech or expression, as a business may not discriminate in the provision of services or goods. If its a Christian only business, it should advertise itself specifically as such. As a business owner, you have legal obligations to treat customers reasonably and fairly. I have a small business, I'm a service provider, the law is pretty clear that once I engage in business or contract, my personal beliefs are not a basis for breaking that agreement, without consequence. A B+B is not a Christian organization. Its a place that offers bed and breakfast. Is the right of Sikhs to not wear crash helmets whereas non-Sikhs would be fined or banned, the "same rights as everyone else"? Religious rights. Christian church's can dispense wine without being licensed, even to minors. I also suspect that it applies to any white Sikhs. So you agree that minorities are given rights over and above those of the majority.
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For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
You mean the ones who took the reservation, and then refused them the room because they were gay. That's not more rights, that's the same rights as everyone else. The beliefs of owners are not covered by free speech or expression, as a business may not discriminate in the provision of services or goods. If its a Christian only business, it should advertise itself specifically as such. As a business owner, you have legal obligations to treat customers reasonably and fairly. I have a small business, I'm a service provider, the law is pretty clear that once I engage in business or contract, my personal beliefs are not a basis for breaking that agreement, without consequence. A B+B is not a Christian organization. Its a place that offers bed and breakfast. Is the right of Sikhs to not wear crash helmets whereas non-Sikhs would be fined or banned, the "same rights as everyone else"? Religious rights. Christian church's can dispense wine without being licensed, even to minors. I also suspect that it applies to any white Sikhs. So you agree that minorities are given rights over and above those of the majority. No, because those rights are extended to all members of society, not just minority groups. Its no more acceptable to refuse someone access to services for being straight or gay, male or female etc. Same rights apply to all.
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For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
You mean the ones who took the reservation, and then refused them the room because they were gay. That's not more rights, that's the same rights as everyone else. The beliefs of owners are not covered by free speech or expression, as a business may not discriminate in the provision of services or goods. If its a Christian only business, it should advertise itself specifically as such. As a business owner, you have legal obligations to treat customers reasonably and fairly. I have a small business, I'm a service provider, the law is pretty clear that once I engage in business or contract, my personal beliefs are not a basis for breaking that agreement, without consequence. A B+B is not a Christian organization. Its a place that offers bed and breakfast. Is the right of Sikhs to not wear crash helmets whereas non-Sikhs would be fined or banned, the "same rights as everyone else"? Religious rights. Christian church's can dispense wine without being licensed, even to minors. I also suspect that it applies to any white Sikhs. So you agree that minorities are given rights over and above those of the majority. But they aren't 'over and above' - some may be different depending on situation, type of organisation etc etc etc but minority groups getting more than their fair share - nah
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