You contradicted yourself.

You can't reasonably say something is 'entirely right' and then say you probably chose the wrong phase. I'm answering you on your words used, not what you might mean.

Also, saying animals 'generally' kill for food also has nothing to do with the reality. Ever seen a fox in a chicken coop? Ever seen a well fed cat go out and hunt and kill?

Animals often kill on instinct alone.

Humans are animals, being 'higher order' makes no real difference to the drives we are born with.

'Paper thin' arguments? Really, unless you are actually in a conflict like this you aren't going to understand the depth of feeling within it. War creates hatred and fear and desensitisation.

Maybe if your child or someone you cared deeply about had died because of a rocket or from a bomb dropped from an aircraft you might feel somewhat differently about 'getting on'.

Even if you didn't, it really isn't for you to expect or ask others to have your attitude. They live it, it's their choice.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yes, yes I have read your posts, and you seem to have a complex that your assertions seem to be god given and therefore correct at every turn

Your know it all pomposity even leaks through in your last line

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

I'm not always right by any means.

If I'm wrong about something and it can be accurately pointed out then I view that as valuable constructive criticism. You are more than welcome to point out any mistakes in reasoning I make.

However, maybe others can't really accept criticism.......Many can't. To be honest I wasn't looking for an argument.

I've stuck to your statements while you are resorting to personal attacks. That's ok, I'm not going to do that in return.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Nov 2012 10.31pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Presumably in response to the upgrading of the Palestinians' diplomatic status.

So, when Israel argued that upgrading the Palestinians' UN status would "hurt peace", what they really meant was 'if the UN upgrade the Palestinians' status we'll throw a strop and do something really tw*ttish and provocative'.

Edited by the despotic banana (30 Nov 2012 4.13pm)

From the Israeli 'point of view' this was always going to happen. This would have happened or something like it even if you had had the moderates in power.

if you don't think that an upgrade of the Palestinian status at this time isn't going to worsen the situation in terms of peace then you just weren't following the situation.

This means the Palestinians can join UN committees and push for things like official war crimes and so on.

The US and elements in the west won't agree to that.

It will add more polarization and lead to more conflict.

No one is going to force the sides to make peace. It's a pointless action in that sense.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

So this latest episode was started by the peace loving and gentle Palestinians kidnapping and murdering three Israeli teens which the perpetrators knew would draw a response from the IDF and the more militant parts of Israeli society.

Quite how some people can defend these people is beyond me.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02