On the contrary Stirling, after forensically examining Darwins theory of Evolution, AND the Big Bang theory I can to an educated conclusion;

That the most logical explanation for the Universe and everything in it, came from a Creator , who/which exists outside of the constraints of time, having in fact created those same constraints.

This will be my final post on this thread , but you can be assured that it was first logic that brought me to faith.

Well we are back to my previous point. It is just as much a leap of faith to believe that the big bang happened spontaneously than it is to believe that omnipotent being caused it.

Of course not, but so many 'experts' on here with minimal knowledge/experience, means the thread might as well be about Paedophilia v Necrophelia.(unless Cucking is involved )

BTW I'm not indoctrinated by religious clap trap, I came to faith initially by a logical examination of it and science, and then that was deepened massively by a spiritual awakening.

But that doesn't fit your narrow view point does it? I think you vastly underestimate people in this, but that seems to be something you do of anyone with a different point of view and/ore experience.

Its ironic that you exhibit so much of what you claim religion perpetuates, close mindedness, sweeping judgements, lack of tolerance.

Frankly anyone looking across these boards and assessing those character traits, might place you at the top of any list.

Something to think about?

Hmmmm, I doubt it.

BTW, I'm not here to debate the issue with you, to my knowledge no one ever made their way to Jesus on a football message board for one. For another I have no desire to do so.

I merely request/suggest that you consider, just for a second, that many Christians have not been brainwashed as you seem to think.

Why should you 'believe' in something? Or say that a fantasy explanation is just as valid as 'best fit' explanations gained from the culmination of countless of hours of work from some of history's best minds.

What's wrong with saying 'we are working on it'.

No mainstream religion mentions anything like a big bang. It's only science that even allows for you to introduce fantasy into the mix....If it weren't for Science you'd just have, 'In the beginning'.

On the contrary Stirling, after forensically examining Darwins theory of Evolution, AND the Big Bang theory I can to an educated conclusion;

That the most logical explanation for the Universe and everything in it, came from a Creator , who/which exists outside of the constraints of time, having in fact created those same constraints.

This will be my final post on this thread , but you can be assured that it was first logic that brought me to faith.

Maher is a known extremist when it comes to Islam and Muslims. I will, however, suppose this numbers are true. This only reflect the cultural traditions of their tribes/communities.