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nairb75 Baltimore 05 Oct 16 1.09pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I think a flat tax could work, but you also have to apply it to all income, whilst removing other forms of taxation, as well as applying rigorous changes to how company tax and self employment status can be exploited to allow individuals to write off expenses etc. It has to be applied as part of a system that entirely revamps taxation law. Not so that someone can pay 15% and then write off losses etc against it. which would never happen. it goes with the assumption that special interest would not be able to affect tax policy in the US. if you believe that then i suppose you also believe looking for gold at the end of a rainbow is sound financial planning.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Oct 16 1.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Rubin
Do you accept though that the mainstream media in the US (perhaps discounting Fox) are heavily in favour of Hillary, in which case they wouldn't run any of the linked stories? They are still legitimate articles, regardless of who publishes them. The thing that bothers me, is how unshakeable Clinton supporters/anti-Trump people are to the exploits of Hillary Clinton. For example, it surely it can't be claimed that ALL the people mentioned in the list here [Link] under the heading 'The Notorious Clinton Body Count List' died coincidentally. Whilst there are some scandals around the Clinton candidency, its interesting how vocal the Trump support is of these, whilst ignoring their own candidates actual proven and demonstrated scandals, failings etc. Physicians and self healing. I think its safe to say there are a few issues around Clinton, but there is a lake of s**tstorms around Trump.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Oct 16 1.43pm | |
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Originally posted by nairb75
that list has been circulating for years and there's nothing legit about it. i'm no hillary fan but the paranoia about her is absurd. she'd need super human powers to do everything she's accused of. The same allegations were levelled at her husband more or less. Also, if your someone, their age, its not surprising that you can find 50 or so people associated with them who have died in the last 25 years. Her husband was a President of the US for 8 years, and a senator for god knows how long, and both have been in high profile public roles for decades. Their circle of associations must be tens upon tens of thousands of people, per year, as first and second step connections. So you'd expect a number of deaths each year, including accidents. Probably synchronicity, the linking of two unrelated factors, by the perception of the significance to the witness. F**k me, I probably don't 'know' more than 400 people, and I know seven people who died last year.
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blackpalacefan 05 Oct 16 2.13pm | |
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I'm not a Hillary supporter but I'm glad Trump's abhorrent views are finally starting to lose him support. To say he has his work cut out now is an understatement.
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Ray in Houston Houston 05 Oct 16 3.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Rubin
Do you accept though that the mainstream media in the US (perhaps discounting Fox) are heavily in favour of Hillary, in which case they wouldn't run any of the linked stories? They are still legitimate articles, regardless of who publishes them. The thing that bothers me, is how unshakeable Clinton supporters/anti-Trump people are to the exploits of Hillary Clinton. For example, it surely it can't be claimed that ALL the people mentioned in the list here [Link] under the heading 'The Notorious Clinton Body Count List' died coincidentally. Here's the thing; Hillary Clinton is a craven, conniving, career politician. However, you believe, because of things you read on the internet, that she's a murderer. The reason the "mainstream media" doesn't pick up on the stories you read on the web, is because they do not pass the smell test.
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nairb75 Baltimore 06 Oct 16 2.06pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
The same allegations were levelled at her husband more or less. Also, if your someone, their age, its not surprising that you can find 50 or so people associated with them who have died in the last 25 years. Her husband was a President of the US for 8 years, and a senator for god knows how long, and both have been in high profile public roles for decades. Their circle of associations must be tens upon tens of thousands of people, per year, as first and second step connections. So you'd expect a number of deaths each year, including accidents. Probably synchronicity, the linking of two unrelated factors, by the perception of the significance to the witness. F**k me, I probably don't 'know' more than 400 people, and I know seven people who died last year. she would truly need super villain powers to do any of the stuff she's accused of. i'm in no way her biggest supporter but it's so over the top of absurdity that i have to call it out.
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NickinOX Sailing country. 06 Oct 16 2.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Here's the thing; Hillary Clinton is a craven, conniving, career politician. However, you believe, because of things you read on the internet, that she's a murderer. The reason the "mainstream media" doesn't pick up on the stories you read on the web, is because they do not pass the smell test. Precisely. When a candidate's (Trump's) main media newspaper endorsement comes from the National Enquirer (sort of like the Daily Star but more stupid), that should tell the voters something. Furthermore, when staunch Republican newspapers, of the type who have never endorsed anything other than a Republican in their entire history (some going back to the 1860's), have not endorsed Trump but instead invited readers to vote Libertarian or Democrat that too should tell us something about his candidacy.
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nairb75 Baltimore 06 Oct 16 2.54pm | |
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Originally posted by NickinOX
Precisely. When a candidate's (Trump's) main media newspaper endorsement comes from the National Enquirer (sort of like the Daily Star but more stupid), that should tell the voters something. Furthermore, when staunch Republican newspapers, of the type who have never endorsed anything other than a Republican in their entire history (some going back to the 1860's), have not endorsed Trump but instead invited readers to vote Libertarian or Democrat that too should tell us something about his candidacy. lots of willfully ignorant people. those things only strengthen their argument that he's an outsider, anti-establishment. solid 40% of people who are just angry and they like him being angry with them. it's 100% emotion. expecting or hoping for reason is a waste of energy.
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NickinOX Sailing country. 06 Oct 16 2.56pm | |
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Originally posted by nairb75
she would truly need super villain powers to do any of the stuff she's accused of. i'm in no way her biggest supporter but it's so over the top of absurdity that i have to call it out. Much as I don't trust her one inch, she has been investigated multiple times without anything sticking. And that is by people who are opposed to her and who clearly have an agenda. If they haven't found anything of actual substance, my guess is there's nothing criminal there despite her questionable ethics.
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Ray in Houston Houston 06 Oct 16 3.07pm | |
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Originally posted by nairb75
lots of willfully ignorant people. those things only strengthen their argument that he's an outsider, anti-establishment. solid 40% of people who are just angry and they like him being angry with them. it's 100% emotion. expecting or hoping for reason is a waste of energy. Trump is right (for the wrong reasons) when he calls himself "Mr. Brexit".
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 06 Oct 16 3.38pm | |
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Originally posted by nairb75
lots of willfully ignorant people. those things only strengthen their argument that he's an outsider, anti-establishment. solid 40% of people who are just angry and they like him being angry with them. it's 100% emotion. expecting or hoping for reason is a waste of energy. A bit like Brits in the USA who haven't the right to vote? Exactly.
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Rubin 06 Oct 16 3.47pm | |
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Originally posted by NickinOX
Precisely. When a candidate's (Trump's) main media newspaper endorsement comes from the National Enquirer (sort of like the Daily Star but more stupid), that should tell the voters something. Furthermore, when staunch Republican newspapers, of the type who have never endorsed anything other than a Republican in their entire history (some going back to the 1860's), have not endorsed Trump but instead invited readers to vote Libertarian or Democrat that too should tell us something about his candidacy. I'd suggest that his vote is from, amongst others, people sick of the 'establishment', of which Hillary Clinton is the embodiment of. People around the world are also getting increasingly disenfranchised with the attempt at centralising power through trade deals and economic zones, and Trump is a vote against that. I'd also say that a lot of people who are linked to and support the 'establishment', will have their careers in the firing line if he gets elected, and I think this is a big reason why he has got so little support from the 'mainstream' media. An example of those already effected, are those who make a living from the promotion money typically spent by the presidential candidates, as Trump has spent very little.
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